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My reasoning for just calling flop was to try and get money in from the other two guys

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There aren't any draws, with that action you are usually getting folds or a push.

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Why should he be more inclined to protect his hand on drawless flops than on boards where his opponents could actually have hands he needs to protect against?

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Not much you can do if your opponent has Ace high, he is not paying off anything.

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That's why I would rather try to get a call on the flop instead of hoping for him to catch on the turn and insta folding to any blank.

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What is the benefit to raising the flop if your opponent is drawing dead and will (correctly) fold?

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Call behind on the flop hoping somebody's got AJ, T9, etc.

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Based on the preflop action I doubt UTG or MP2 has AJ or T9, so you are gambling that MP1 has something instead of trying to extract more from MP2 who has shown interest.

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After you call the flop you have $160 left in a $100 pot. How hard can it possibly be to get the rest of your stack in with position across two more betting rounds? What's the rush?

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Since when does a minraise in a multiway reraised pot not look at all strong?

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I didn't say it wasn't strong.

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After you call the flop you have $160 left in a $100 pot. How hard can it possibly be to get the rest of your stack in with position across two more betting rounds? What's the rush?

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Everybody seems to think villain doesn't have anything and is looking to fold.

If that's the case, in my experience, some donk at Party NL200 calling a minraise, is more likely than someone calling a blank turn if they check it.

I don't think villain is that weak based on the preflop action. Although UTG only raised to 4, MP2 didn't seem worried about getting re-raised again preflop, so I wouldn't rule out an overpair.

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If he has an overpair then what's wrong with calling?

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If he has an overpair then what's wrong with calling?

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Absolutely nothing.

Most of the time I would call, but OP gives no read on villain, so I tend to post based on what I have seen lately, which has been aggressive donks thinking I am making a play more than smart thinking players [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

If OP had said villain was solid, then I would say call.

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My reasoning for just calling flop was to try and get money in from the other two guys


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There aren't any draws, with that action you are usually getting folds or a push.

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Why should he be more inclined to protect his hand on drawless flops than on boards where his opponents could actually have hands he needs to protect against?

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If someone checks a strong hand and gets a raise and a call behind, I don't think they are usually calling.

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And once again, why do you want to make people fold when they are drawing dead?

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And once again, why do you want to make people fold when they are drawing dead?

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I see your point, but I was putting MP2 on the overpair, not UTG+1 or MP1.

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Certainly you would be challenging the CB with a raise, but you mighht take the pot down for no gain. A call hopefully gets at least one other caller. When the turn blanks there just isn't anything there. What kind of hand do you think checks and calls a 1/2 pot turn bet? Villain won't always have a good second-best hand.