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QuikSand 06-14-2005 07:46 PM

Party 5/10 - My hand gets better, resistsance grows stronger...
 
Button is new to the table, which has otherwise been pretty average for this level.

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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB

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In retrospect, I have wondered about this hand a good deal.

It's too early to read this player as solid, but if he is, there is a pretty limited range of hands that he could make these plays with, I think -- and my final hand doesn't beat all that many of them.

Should I have taken my foot of the gas at any particular point? Was capping the river as poor a play as I now think it was? (My current thinking was that my line was okay until that point, where I now think that calling his reraise should have been the end of it)

Jeff W 06-14-2005 07:51 PM

Re: Party 5/10 - My hand gets better, resistsance grows stronger...
 
For those who don't know. Quiksand is a legendary Front Office Football player. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I don't like the river cap against an unknown. You're not ahead 50% of the time. He has AA or A8 more often than he 3-bets a worse 8. It's not a big mistake, though and certainly not worth losing any sleep over.

QuikSand 06-14-2005 08:23 PM

Re: Party 5/10 - My hand gets better, resistsance grows stronger...
 
[ QUOTE ]
For those who don't know. Quiksand is a legendary Front Office Football player. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Poker... not so much.

sethypooh21 06-14-2005 08:27 PM

Re: Party 5/10 - My hand gets better, resistsance grows stronger...
 
This may sound stupid and flame-worthy, but is this preflop call slightly loose vs. unknown?

QuikSand 06-14-2005 08:29 PM

Re: Party 5/10 - My hand gets better, resistsance grows stronger...
 
[ QUOTE ]
This may sound stupid and flame-worthy, but is this preflop call slightly loose vs. unknown?

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I am open to both types of criticism. I would not have called just the button raiser, but the SB caller made me think that my connectors made this a worthwhile call.

But I'm open to being told I am incorrect there.

Jeff W 06-14-2005 08:35 PM

Re: Party 5/10 - My hand gets better, resistsance grows stronger...
 
[ QUOTE ]
called just the button raiser, but the SB caller made me think that my connectors made this a worthwhile call.

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I would much rather have 89o HU w/ the pfr than a 3-way pot. The only time I would rather be 3-way than HU is when I have a monster like AA or KK.

danng721 06-14-2005 08:45 PM

Re: Party 5/10 - My hand gets better, resistsance grows stronger...
 
PF call was fine and your play was fine. Just another bad beat. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

pshabi 06-14-2005 08:57 PM

Re: Party 5/10 - My hand gets better, resistsance grows stronger...
 
Other than saying, good play, someone really needs to explain to me how 89off, 3-ways, OOP, against a raiser who we don't have a negative read on is a play I want to make.

QuikSand 06-14-2005 11:12 PM

Re: Party 5/10 - My hand gets better, resistsance grows stronger...
 
[ QUOTE ]
Just another bad beat.

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Well, in this case, perhaps. However, unlike the usual poker so story, this bad beat was foisted upon the villain.

He shows down 55. Decided to slowplay his set on the flop, made a boat on the turn (when I made my trips) and then got outboated on the river.

In the end, he flayed me with an expletive that I still can't fully translate from the asterisked Party version.


Questionable call preflop, and probably unwise to cap the river... but in between I don't see any way to get away from this hand, just to perhaps lose a bit less (usually).

dantheman_05 06-14-2005 11:21 PM

Re: Party 5/10 - My hand gets better, resistsance grows stronger...
 
dont be a wuss, cap all streets


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