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12-21-2005 08:30 PM

Defending your BB in Limit
 
Just read an article in Cardplayer titled Defending Blinds. It put a new spin on Limit Blind play that I always thought was a leak in my game. When should you call, when should you fold, what hands are playable and how many ways? After reading this article I think I will defend my blind MUCH more often in Limit but as the article states it all depends on the raiser and the raisers LP (Late Position) raising frequency.

How often do you defend your blinds in a Limit ring game and why?

Defending Blinds

Pog0 12-21-2005 10:14 PM

Re: Defending your BB in Limit
 
Cardplayer is bad.

Net Warrior 12-21-2005 11:49 PM

Re: Defending your BB in Limit
 
I just read the article in question and it seems to make a lot of sense (cents [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]) to me. I'm way too tight with my bb defense and this approach seems like it's worth a try. I'm hoping others will chime here.

Solami17 12-22-2005 12:00 AM

Re: Defending your BB in Limit
 
What limit are we talking about here?

Lower limits are filled with donks that play whatever two cards they get. Recognize this and about the top %50 of hands are worthy of play.

The higher the limits, the more people are likely to raise from the button.

You must decide for yourself and adapt to the situation

uuDevil 12-22-2005 12:49 AM

Re: Defending your BB in Limit
 
From the article:

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...when I’m in the big blind, I’m showing an overall loss of less than one big blind with 140 of my 169 hand combinations — meaning that as of now, I do better by calling with those 140 combinations than I would by folding them. To me, this is a pretty strong indicator that all of the people who advocate a loose blind-defending strategy are on the right track.

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This isn't clear to me. Is he referring only to hands when his BB is raised? Otherwise, this doesn't seem like a good argument at all.

Net Warrior 12-22-2005 07:20 AM

Re: Defending your BB in Limit
 
[ QUOTE ]
From the article:

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...when I’m in the big blind, I’m showing an overall loss of less than one big blind with 140 of my 169 hand combinations — meaning that as of now, I do better by calling with those 140 combinations than I would by folding them. To me, this is a pretty strong indicator that all of the people who advocate a loose blind-defending strategy are on the right track.

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This isn't clear to me. Is he referring only to hands when his BB is raised? Otherwise, this doesn't seem like a good argument at all.

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I don't see what is unclear. The topic is defending the bb. Doesn't this imply that someone put in a raise?

12-22-2005 09:29 AM

Re: Defending your BB in Limit
 
In the latest cardplayer, there's the article you're talking about by Matt Mattros about defending your blind strongly, but then there's another article by Barry Tanenbaum which completely contradicts it. I believe Barry's article to be more appropriate.

Daniture 12-22-2005 09:50 AM

Re: Defending your BB in Limit
 
Thats some seriously flawed logic to try and claim you're getting 4.5:1 heads up against a later position raiser.

While i agree in theory the odds are pretty much right to defend with any 2 cards even if you think your opponent has AK it all depends on how much faith you have in your ability to outplay you're opponent out of position.

Personally i'll wait for a better spot then 47o to defend.

jman220 12-22-2005 11:22 AM

Re: Defending your BB in Limit
 
The definitive thread on blind defense.

Net Warrior 12-22-2005 04:46 PM

Re: Defending your BB in Limit
 
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The definitive thread on blind defense.

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LOL Tongue firmly in cheek I trust. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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