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assume you're talking about affiliates of Empire/Eurobet, etc. I fail to see how this change costs Party Poker affiliates money.


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brahahaha you're kidding right. This is going to kill any Party skin affiliate-unless the skins can find a way to fight back or rejoin the Party Network.

Have you seen the pot averages on the Party Skin Network-all anemic. Total player on the network ~7,500.

This is going to put these skins out of business unless they can counter Party's move and they beter figure out something fast...in a prior threadin the ZOO I mused that EOL-Empire Poker listed on the London Stock Exchange would open down 20-30% Monday morning-after looking at this more in detail this stock will get hit much harder than that.

EuroBet is more diverse with its B&M betting parlors and online casino and sportsbook.

EuroBet may be able to weather this just like InterTops but Empire may not survive unless they can counter in a big way. What are their options.

Party has fvcked all these skins good.

Also Party stock may rally more than I thought eventhu this clarifies their bogus player counts and revenue/player growth estimates. If Party can pull this off and maintain solid player counts and build on it..this is a long term positive.

What Party has finally done is come out of the closet and clarified and cleaned up their accounting. How investors and analysts react to this will be very interesting. Party had to do this to protect its turf.

Party had to do this they had no choice.

Re: Party fiasco - Surely someone must have known?
 

I think you may have misunderstood my post. I was saying that while "Party skin affiliates" are indeed hurt by this move, as far as I can tell, it does not hurt "Party Poker affiliates."

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I think you may have misunderstood my post. I was saying that while "Party skin affiliates" are indeed hurt by this move, as far as I can tell, it does not hurt "Party Poker affiliates."

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Hell no it doesn't hurt Party affiliates. They get to keep 100% of the affiliate payment.

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I think you may have misunderstood my post. I was saying that while "Party skin affiliates" are indeed hurt by this move, as far as I can tell, it does not hurt "Party Poker affiliates."

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Hell no it doesn't hurt Party affiliates. They get to keep 100% of the affiliate payment.

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Why would that be the case? I plan on paying out as usual.

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I think you may have misunderstood my post. I was saying that while "Party skin affiliates" are indeed hurt by this move, as far as I can tell, it does not hurt "Party Poker affiliates."

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Hell no it doesn't hurt Party affiliates. They get to keep 100% of the affiliate payment.

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Why would that be the case? I plan on paying out as usual.

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That's fine for you and your players. For the majority of players (who opened an account on Party before the RB craze hit), if they go back to Party, their affiliate will be pocketing all of the MGR rebate. I'm sure a lot of people with older Party accounts don't even know who their affiliate is.

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no you are right I misread your post . For the largest Party affiliates this means they may pick up some business from skin players looking to come back to Party but remember many Party affiliates have historicaly targeted players that are not educated on rakeback and they havent offered rakeback to signups.

So Party affiliates may pick up new players but they are going to have give in a bit ie rackback to the new educated converts. My guess is unless affiliates can really invision getting loads of new signups they may not want to deal with offering rakeback. If they see tons is to be made from influx of converts they will need to spend money on better customer service,website automation etc....that's what the larger Party affiliates are doing right now. A site like Raketracker run by Morgant already have the infrastructure in place. I'm curious to see how wide Party will open the net. Will they let any affiliates join the party or just the biggest affiliates.

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I think for most of us it's CardPlayerCruises!

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The situation at Party does not have to adversely affect any affiliates or players of Party skins. They both can easily come back to Party.

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I think for most of us it's CardPlayerCruises!


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CPC is supposedly the biggest Party affiliate run by Linda Johnson . I learned this earlier this evening from a large sub-affiliate of hers. I didnt know that she was making huge bucks as an affiliate.

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Got to be very annoyed if you've bought empire shares. Wonder how long ago they knew about this? Before they bought noble presumably. If they knew before they listed tho??