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gildwulf 12-22-2005 01:25 AM

5/10 River Raise
 
Whattaya think...FPS? Opponent is TAG (25/17/1.9)

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, BB calls.

River: (9.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>...

Final Pot: 13.20 BB

Redd 12-22-2005 01:28 AM

Re: 5/10 River Raise
 
Gildwulf,
What worse hands do you expect him to bet-call on the river here?

Buckmulligan 12-22-2005 01:31 AM

Re: 5/10 River Raise
 
I don't see a TAG donking this river with AJ, so I think I'm just peeling. I dont know of any worse hands that are bet/calling us here.

gildwulf 12-22-2005 01:33 AM

Re: 5/10 River Raise
 
Probably just KQ...I was more thinking I could get him to fold hands like TJ or QJ. I am also obviously folding to a raise here.

imported_leader 12-22-2005 01:35 AM

Re: 5/10 River Raise
 
I wouldn't raise the flop or the river. The flop raise rarely cleans up your outs but it's not worth the extra cost and risk, IMO. I don't think you're getting called enough by worse hands on the river, but it's decently close. He could have an oddly played KQ.

Buckmulligan 12-22-2005 01:35 AM

Re: 5/10 River Raise
 
If he has Two pair, I don't think there's any chance he made it on the flop or the turn. His line is LEAST indicative of a two pair.

mungpo 12-22-2005 01:39 AM

Re: 5/10 River Raise
 
I would just call the river. His play is odd.

Redd 12-22-2005 01:49 AM

Re: 5/10 River Raise
 
[ QUOTE ]
Probably just KQ...I was more thinking I could get him to fold hands like TJ or QJ. I am also obviously folding to a raise here.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, KQ is a possibility; I don't think his play is really consistent with TJ/QJ tho?

It's hard to put him on a range of hands here; it looks like a gutsy wa/wb of some sort, but why wouldn't he realize that he's pretty toast against most of your hand range? Without one of the several monsters on the board, he's a huge dog to your 88-AA, AK, KQ, AQ, AJish range. If he's smart enough to realize what sort of shape his hand is in, I think I'd rather just call.

Womble 12-22-2005 07:44 AM

Re: 5/10 River Raise
 
Dont like the river raise. The flush is unlikely since its a runner runner but any 9 now beats you and J9,T9,Q9 are all possible holdings as well as some 2 pair hands.

Ill just cal the river, pot is too big to fold

Jakob 12-22-2005 08:36 AM

Re: 5/10 River Raise
 
I play it the same, but I just call the river!


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