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12-14-2005 12:32 PM

just another overpair facing heat
 
SB is 57/8/1.2
I have a note that says he raised and check/raised the preflop raiser with midpair on the flop, two different hands that is. Furthermore he's not that aggressive postflop and I haven't seen him doing any crazy stuff.

BB is 31/5/0.6 over 75 hands

Party Poker 10.00/20.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8.00 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.00 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero

spydog 12-14-2005 12:53 PM

Re: just another overpair facing heat
 
Tough one. If we raise and are 3-bet then we nearly have the odds to call a 3-bet, which means we probably would. And then we would probably call a river bet. I think I like a raise on the turn if I can fold to a 3-bet, so I just call the turn. If the flush card comes on the river then we can get out of the hand when BB raises. So, I like calling the turn.

TwoNiner 12-14-2005 02:51 PM

Re: just another overpair facing heat
 
I wouldn't raise the turn, but not because I couldn't fold to a three bet. You don't have the odds to call a 3 bet if raised and there is a good chance you will have to rationalize a river call with your overpair which really kills the odds to catch a miracle queen since you will be paying two bets often. Since I would fold to a three bet I rather just call down from here and give myself a small chance to catch the queen if he does have trips, and hope he bluffs the river if he's been on a draw. I really think you are beat here though. We always talk about small sample sizes with some pokertrack stats but it is much much more likley that this is a straightforward player with a .6 after 75 hands. I know there are players out there where folding to a turn bet is correct but I never manage to find it.

ArturiusX 12-14-2005 08:43 PM

Re: just another overpair facing heat
 
I like seeing a showdown from this position.

wackjob 12-14-2005 09:18 PM

Re: just another overpair facing heat
 
Once he caps the flop I will go into calldown mode.


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