10/20: Unexpected river action
 

Villain is 23/10/1 over not many hands. Do I call or reraise this?


Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (9.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ...</font>.

Re: 10/20: Unexpected river action
 

I 3 bet here every time.

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I 3 bet here every time. Do you think a 23/10/1 button would 3 bet you with QT preflop? Maybe he would to isolate you but UTG already called. You have to 3 bet this river.

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Button is long gone, I'm dealing with UTG now who limped and called 2 more cold (and then one more again).

Edit: Gotcha!

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I 3 bet here every time. Do you think a 23/10/1 button would 3 bet you with QT preflop? Maybe he would to isolate you but UTG already called. You have to 3 bet this river.

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Button is long gone, I'm dealing with UTG now who limped and called 2 more cold (and then one more again).

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I misread your initial post oops....I still 3 bet this river though.

Re: 10/20: Unexpected river action
 

You're behind to T8 &amp; QT. T8 is unlikly due to preflop. So, you're behind to QT.

You are ahead of KJ (maybe 7J)... and that's about it?


It looks like a call to me. In the heat of the battle it is hard not to 3-bet sometimes, but I think calling is corrrect.

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You are ahead of KJ (maybe 7J)... and that's about it?



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Maybe K9 too...what about about a weirdly played set?

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You are ahead of KJ (maybe 7J)... and that's about it?



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Maybe K9 too...what about about a weirdly played set?

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It could be K9 as well, but almost always that hand would make a move on the turn. Could be a set as well, but very unlikly.


I think the likly hands (KJ, QT) will be what Villain holds most of the time.

QT: 16 combinations
KJ: 3 combinations

Even if you add some conbinations to the KJ-side to conpensate for all possible unlikly holdings you are a far way from the desired 32 combinations.

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Even if you add some conbinations to the KJ-side to conpensate for all possible unlikly holdings you are a far way from the desired 32 combinations.

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That makes more sense yea. I guess it is closer to a call then. Where do you get 32 from by the way? Cause when you're ahead you'll win 1 more BB and when you're behind you'll lose 2?

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Even if you add some conbinations to the KJ-side to conpensate for all possible unlikly holdings you are a far way from the desired 32 combinations.

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That makes more sense yea. I guess it is closer to a call then. Where do you get 32 from by the way? Cause when you're ahead you'll win 1 more BB and when you're behind you'll lose 2?

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Exactly. 16*2 = 32

Re: 10/20: Unexpected river action
 

What is QT is doing on the river though ? His stats are not that bad and QT wouldn't even have a gutshot on the flop.