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meow_meow 09-28-2005 09:50 AM

a common turn decision
 
Situation that comes up quite often:

you raise preflop with AA-JJ, get one or two callers and one of the blinds comes along - 3-4 to the flop.

Flop comes with a pair and no high card. Something like 885. Checked to you, you bet, get one caller from a blind position. Turn is a blank, checked to you.....
Read the villain as typical 5-10: not a tag, not a super lag or a super LP, just moderately LP 35/10 or so.

I always bet this. It's pretty much a wa/wb situation. My problem is that when I get cr'ed, I go into call down mode. Now I realize that I'll be putting in 2 more bets to win 7-8 bets, but against a non-tricky villain, are you good here more than 25% of the time?

Really, my question boils down to "can I fold an overpair to a check raise HU on the turn on a paired but otherwise unscary board?"
thanks.

Nietzsche 09-28-2005 09:59 AM

Re: a common turn decision
 
This percentage is closer to 20% as your two outer will get there about 5% of the time.

I think you do, especially with AA as sometimes this will be an overpair.

spydog 09-28-2005 11:26 AM

Re: a common turn decision
 
[ QUOTE ]

Really, my question boils down to "can I fold an overpair to a check raise HU on the turn on a paired but otherwise unscary board?"
thanks.

[/ QUOTE ]

Absolutely never. I've seen the most passive players bluff at paired flops with a turn checkraise. It's probably the most commonly bluffed at board.

wonkadaddy 09-28-2005 06:20 PM

Re: a common turn decision
 
agree. can't even consider folding. the turn raise could jsut as likely be a value move from a smaller pair putting u on overs.

StellarWind 09-28-2005 06:55 PM

Re: a common turn decision
 
I can't imagine folding 66 on an 8852 board. If I don't have the third flop card covered then I have a decision to make.


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