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Custer 03-12-2005 03:23 AM

Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
The thread about the rake back problem at PokerNow has apparently just been eliminated. I know there was a couple of inappropriate mentions of specific affiliates, but the thread as a whole was quite appropriate.

soah 03-12-2005 03:24 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
I demand to know what MicroBob wrote! I went to read his reply and it wasn't there. =(

Custer 03-12-2005 03:34 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
Because this site that accepts advertising revenues from rack back sites (look at the top right, not to mention the classifieds), they should be much more open to rack back related discussion. NOT ADVERISING, but discussion. There was very little advertising in the deleted thread and all of it was obviously inadvertant. Yet the whole thread was deleted. The censorship (which is needed) went way too far in this instance.

lorinda 03-12-2005 03:37 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
There was very little advertising in the deleted thread and all of it was obviously inadvertant

That's pretty inaccurate at best.

Lori

Custer 03-12-2005 03:54 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
In the 73 replies that I have and can still view, 3 affiliates were mentioned. One was in the original email text and was referred to but never directly and independently commented on. One was mentioned as an affiliate who paid (possibly but unlikely advertising). The other one was blatant advertising, but that poster followed by showing his true reason for posting by providing some good info. Another mentioned that he was an affiliate but gave no further details. IMO 7 or 8 replies could have been deleted and the thread would have been fine. But as someone who wants all rakeback to die I can see why you might disagree.

soah 03-12-2005 04:00 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
The thing is that it's basically impossible for an affiliate to respond to that thread without revealing the fact that they are an affiliate. Assuming they are actually posting any useful information.

Custer 03-12-2005 04:04 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
Just post the information without even infering you are an affiliate. Like this:

PokerNow is under serious pressure from iGlobalMedia (sic) to drastically change their affiliate programs. There is a real chance many affiliates will not be paid this month or in the future.

(the above is not known to be accurate in any way. It is merely a language example)

PsYcHo-ScHnAuZeR 03-12-2005 04:05 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
You should cut and paste those replies into this thread (minus any spam)

Custer 03-12-2005 04:07 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
I don't have the time right now (huge day of basketball betting tomarrow) but maybe I will tomarrow evening if the discussion is not recreated.

PsYcHo-ScHnAuZeR 03-12-2005 04:10 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
That's cool. It is only the really great posts (like MicroBob and other experts) that need to be preserved. I don't care about the whiny posts that don't really say anything.

rusty JEDI 03-12-2005 04:17 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
You may be able to repost everything if you just eliminated all of the posters names.

rJ

lorinda 03-12-2005 04:18 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
AAmazon's post was one of the best, and JHE's was one of the best on the other side.

Lori

Jamper 03-12-2005 04:37 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
I was the original poster in "that thread" LOL & I asked Mat to intervene:

It was stupid of me not to have edited out my affiliate's name before posting a copy his email notification. After realizing that he was getting a bum rap from people taking advantage of the situation, I asked Mat to edit out his name.

PsYcHo-ScHnAuZeR 03-12-2005 04:44 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
Does Mat understand that just because a thread contains spam, that it may be a useful thread with a ton of good content?

Is he just too lazy to go through it for the spam, so he instead kills the whole thread?

Sometimes he just goes to far.

AAmaz0n 03-12-2005 05:28 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
[ QUOTE ]
AAmazon's post was one of the best, and JHE's was one of the best on the other side.

Lori

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks Lori. I wish that I had kept a copy of it; I never even got to see any of the replies.

I believe that it would have been far preferable to delete any inappropriate posts and/or edit out anything considered spam than to kill the whole discussion. This is the first time one of my posts has been deleted and I am quite disappointed.

Shauna

ripped 03-12-2005 06:35 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
this is hard to post without saying too much but I dont think any of the affiliates that posted did it to advertise they were affiliates. They all had some good points and nothing should have been deleted at all. I dont know why matt is being so anal and deleting good threads that obviously belong in the zoo.

rt1 03-12-2005 06:40 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
the main problem with the thread, as i saw it, was that certain people were responding saying 'i am an affiliate and i was paid'. this could be looked at as advertising...

ripped 03-12-2005 06:57 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
agreed, but they were challenging the posters original post. Well some were anyways. Some went alittle too far.

SenecaJim 03-12-2005 09:53 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
I really hope this gets reposted somehow. I played online about a year and a half ago..got killed. I have been playing live as possible since. I am getting ready to launch back into online as I am retiring in 2 months.

Some questions I have still not had answered on my own I will throw in here.

Why do some say rakeback is illegal or unethical. I thought sites were trying to promote business with discounts like B&M's do with comping.

Why do some say rakeback should disappear? Do you feel it is hurting the games?

I am neither pro nor anti rakeback because I do not have enough knowledge, but if I am going to play online and have a chance to make some extra ( or lose less [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] ) I would like to avail myself of this if it doesn't involve a risk of prison time ( they won't take me alive however [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]).

So, this info from the deleted thread sounds like exactly what I have been looking for and therefore probably some others ( I'm not THAT different).

Thanks to anybody instrumemtal in getting the info back up. I would have never missed in in the first place but was outta town to see Elvis Costello at the beautiful TN Theatre in Knoxville ( not advertising, beautiful place).

Uglyowl 03-12-2005 10:54 AM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
Oh no... twoplustwo supressing good ideas and thoughts. GRRRRRRRR

Soleo 03-12-2005 12:31 PM

Re: Did Mat just kill that thread?
 
I don't know why poker rooms claim that rakeback is illegal business practice. However I strongly suspect that recent PokerNow problem has been caused with help of PartyPoker main department which lost many customers/profits who gone to PokerNow.


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