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09-11-2005 08:05 AM

Kings under heavy fire, how to act?
 
Two red kings in my hole.

Seat 1: realdef ($107.25 in chips)
Seat 2: HolyRoller45 ($97.50 in chips)
Seat 3: possibly ($101.40 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($74.15 in chips)
Seat 5: thecrazymr ($55.20 in chips)
Seat 7: governor68 ($41.60 in chips)
Seat 8: LoveSpatula ($199 in chips)
Seat 9: Hasting ($104.50 in chips)
Seat 10: knivar3n2 ($115.90 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
thecrazymr posts blind ($0.50), governor68 posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
LoveSpatula calls $1, Hasting bets $4, knivar3n2 calls $4, realdef folds, HolyRoller45 calls $4, possibly folds, Hero bets $22, thecrazymr folds, governor68 folds, LoveSpatula folds, Hasting calls $18, knivar3n2 folds, HolyRoller45 calls $18.

Pot 70,5

FLOP [board cards 4S,6S,QD ]
Hasting bets $70, HolyRoller45 folds, Hero? (52,5$ left)

Im pleased with all comments.

Hastings have been playing 20 minutes on table without doing anything really donkish, or playing big pots.

Finite_Risk 09-11-2005 08:22 AM

Re: Kings under heavy fire, how to act?
 
Uh, call?

gol4pro 09-11-2005 08:34 AM

Re: Kings under heavy fire, how to act?
 
You can't fold here for 2.5:1.

JFM 09-11-2005 09:38 AM

Re: Kings under heavy fire, how to act?
 
What hands do you put him on? Witch of thouse do you have beat? I can only see AQs (and KK).
That said, your geting good odds to call (2,7:1)and have al ready invested ca: 30% of your stack so if you can bring a 100$ more if you lose call.
If not, at least think about folding.

DaveduFresne 09-11-2005 12:19 PM

Re: Kings under heavy fire, how to act?
 
He got improper odds to hit his set. If he got lucky, without an amazing read, you have to pay him off.

Finite_Risk 09-11-2005 12:40 PM

Re: Kings under heavy fire, how to act?
 
Most people aren't raising from EP with 4's or 6's so I'd rule them out - maybe he has AA-QQ. More likely is AKs or AQs.

You are just calling a pot sized flop bet (actually less given your stack) - maybe I'm dense but I don't see how you fold this here.

JFM 09-11-2005 02:36 PM

Re: Kings under heavy fire, how to act?
 
You´r a smal favourite against AK [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (55/45)
You´r a smal dog against AQs (49/51)
you´r a BIG dog against QQ, AA (8/92)
If he has KK it´s 82% chance of a tie

You don´t call for the of chance of hitting a K. IF you call you do it because there is to much money in the pot.
You are going to lose money, the question is if you will lose less by calling or folding.

09-11-2005 02:45 PM

Re: Kings under heavy fire, how to act?
 
this looks to me like a guy who: A. doesn't want a call, but might not hate one either; or B. a guy who figures he might have the best hand and doesn't figure he can get away from it considering the size of the pot and your smallish amount left, and he probably figures he's gonna have to put it all in anyway. I think a set of queens would have bet out half of Hero's stack or checked here. I think you have to call. I think you're up against A-Q or A-K with the draw.

JFM 09-11-2005 02:57 PM

Re: Kings under heavy fire, how to act?
 
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I think a set of queens would have bet out half of Hero's stack or checked here. think you're up against A-Q

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If he puts Hero on AK [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

09-11-2005 03:05 PM

Re: Kings under heavy fire, how to act?
 
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I think a set of queens would have bet out half of Hero's stack or checked here. think you're up against A-Q

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If he puts Hero on AK [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

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yeah, of course, it's possible he could have a set of queens and be afraid of As Ks. But Hero sure didn't play the hand like A-K. I think everyone at the table knows he's got aces or kings. That's why I said it looks like someone who is trying to push him off a hand. Most people who flop top set with that pot size, Hero's stack size, and knowing Hero has aces or kings are either betting out half Hero's stack in an effort to get it all or are c/r him all in. Either way, they're looking to get Hero committed to that pot. Open pushing the flop doesn't fit that MO. Of course, it's possible though. Either way, considering the pot size and stack size, I think Hero has to call here.


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