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Lloyd 11-02-2005 01:02 PM

Re: PCA DSO Hand - 5 left - Do I make the call?
 
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Way out of my league, but I'll take a stab.

One factor you don't mention is when the blinds will go up. (And I can't remember if they are going to 75/150 or 100/200.) The sooner and the steeper the blinds will increase, the wider my calling range becomes.

I'm assuming that you don't much care about the $65, or even the $650? For first you need chips, and can't wait around for Aces. It's great that you are the best player at the table, but you need chips to play that way. I'll widen my calling out to: 88+, AJ+, but I'd rather have the 88.

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Good question on the blinds. They just moved to 50/100. They will go to 75/150 in about 10 minutes so there's plenty of play at this level.

I want to make the most profitable decision and that takes into consideration the entire prize pool. That doesn't mean I'm waiting for a huge hand to make a play here. And in fact I've been the most aggressive at the table for a couple of orbits now. But at the same time I'm not looking to make a bone head move just for the possibility to double up and join the ranks of the larger stacks.

Ben5505 11-02-2005 01:07 PM

Re: PCA DSO Hand - 5 left - Do I make the call?
 
I would call with 99+ but nothing less than AK...I have had too many experiences when I get all in with AQ and am completly dominated by AK...its a bad spot to be in. I like the chance of a coin flip in this situation though. Villain turn over QQ?

KneeCo 11-02-2005 01:07 PM

Re: PCA DSO Hand - 5 left - Do I make the call?
 
I'm assuming your playing for first here (willing to forego the 65 or even 650$ for a shot at the 12K), under those conditions chips gained are more valuable than chips lost, so my calling range is wider than it otherwise might be.

I'm calling with TT+/AQ+

Jurollo 11-02-2005 01:07 PM

Re: PCA DSO Hand - 5 left - Do I make the call?
 
AA-TT, maybe 99 depending on the player, AK-AQo, AK-AQs, I think about AJs as well depending on player. If the $650 doesn't matter to you then I call with 99-77 and AJs no matter the player and hope to double through.
~Justin

Lloyd 11-02-2005 01:11 PM

Re: PCA DSO Hand - 5 left - Do I make the call?
 
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I'm assuming your playing for first here

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See my post above. Again, I'm wanting to make the most profitable decision that takes into consideration the ENTIRE prize pool. There is obviously a very top heavy payout. But $650 is $650 and it's better than $0 or $65. So yes, I'm playing for first but that doesn't mean you ignore the $650.

11-02-2005 01:12 PM

Re: PCA DSO Hand - 5 left - Do I make the call?
 
exactly, J's or better, AK.

KneeCo 11-02-2005 01:13 PM

Re: PCA DSO Hand - 5 left - Do I make the call?
 
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If the $650 doesn't matter to you then I call with 99-77 and AJs no matter the player and hope to double through.

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I think this is a little too wide. Even if you're just playing for first and need to make a move soon you have to respect the gap concept and I don't think UTG is pushing here with such a wide range that you can afford to make a call here with 77-88.

11-02-2005 01:16 PM

Re: PCA DSO Hand - 5 left - Do I make the call?
 
My range here would be pretty damn tight. JJ+ and AKs.

Even if the 65 and 650 doesn't matter to you I feel that the 99 and TT here just wouldn't be enough. I'm putting his range at 88+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ (too loose/tight?) so with jj+ and aks that would give me:

3,041,051,904 games 6.468 secs 470,168,816 games/sec

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 64.0403 % 62.18% 01.86% { JJ+, AKs }
Hand 2: 35.9597 % 34.10% 01.86% { 88+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ }

LearnedfromTV 11-02-2005 01:45 PM

Re: PCA DSO Hand - 5 left - Do I make the call?
 
The open push makes me lean toward QQ-88, AK, AQ as his range, with 99, 88, AQ slightly less likely.

Given that there's still some play left in the level and that CO might wake up with a hand good enough to come along for a three-way allin, I would fold TT and AQ.

AK, JJ-AA

Roman 11-02-2005 01:57 PM

Re: PCA DSO Hand - 5 left - Do I make the call?
 
my gut says AA-99 AQs+. I dont like calling with AQo here cause I think we see PPs and AK much more than lower aces and KQ.


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