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lmw 11-05-2005 04:41 PM

Big Draw vs. LAG 50 NL
 
Villian is LAG. Reraise the flop and check a blank turn?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 ($22.25)
MP3 ($51.80)
CO ($100.45)
Hero ($81.95)
SB ($53.60)
BB ($18.05)
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($12.50)
MP1 ($52.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $2.25</font>, Hero calls $2.25, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($6.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $6.75</font>, Hero calls $6.75.

River: ($20.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $20.25 Hero?

lmw 11-05-2005 07:11 PM

Re: Big Draw vs. LAG 50 NL
 
Anyone?

Morrek 11-05-2005 07:15 PM

Re: Big Draw vs. LAG 50 NL
 
Raise the flop to 6-7. As played I would call river but expect to lose some of the time.
I play 6max only but I would definetly raise this preflop too

gol4pro 11-05-2005 07:16 PM

Re: Big Draw vs. LAG 50 NL
 
Raise either flop or turn. I like doing it on the turn because it is more representative of a slowplayed set/2 pair, and he becomes very easy to stack just in case you hit because of the size of the pot.

As played, call river.

benwood 11-05-2005 07:56 PM

Re: Big Draw vs. LAG 50 NL
 
As played, I would raise him all in on the river. He has about 20 bucks left, &amp; the pot is about $60. With him being a lag, there is no reason to assume that he has the nuts &amp; just call. But, it can't be right to just call the flop &amp; turn. If he has a K, you have 15 outs. If he has a 10, you have 21 outs. I prefer to raise the flop about $10, &amp; then make a decision on the turn. But going back to the beginning, I believe it is right to raise it about $2 pre-flop, bet about $10 on the flop, then go all in on the turn. Maybe this is too laggish, but I don't think so.

nietzreznor 11-05-2005 08:25 PM

Re: Big Draw vs. LAG 50 NL
 
Is this LAG any good? Maybe more importantly, how often will he come over the top if you raise the flop? If him 3-betting the flop is a good possibility, I think I like flatcalling better. I think you would do better to get it in with made hands against LAGs than coinflip situations where you may not have much folding equity.

As played, I probably put him in on the river, assuming he's the type of LAG who will call here with trips, TP, etc. If he's pretty aggressive, you will have the best hand more often than not here.

lmw 11-06-2005 05:55 AM

Re: Big Draw vs. LAG 50 NL
 
This is precisely why i called the flop and turn. I felt like a reraise on the flop had no fold equity. I'm thinking a reraise on the flop, even if I know it will be called, might give me the oppourtunity to give myself a free card on the turn and induce a river bluff, but if villian comes over the top I'm stuck flipping a coin for a huge pot against a player i can get much bigger edges against.

boose_bagina 11-06-2005 06:07 AM

Re: Big Draw vs. LAG 50 NL
 
Push All-in, he calls and turns over any K. set unlikely.

calling flop seems ok against LAG.

Lucky 11-06-2005 06:12 AM

Re: Big Draw vs. LAG 50 NL
 
I like the raise flop, check blank turn line.

the river is read dependent between call/raise. Does he call you with worse hands? How often is he on boat, etc?

I prob call without big donk read.

lmw 11-06-2005 02:31 PM

Re: Big Draw vs. LAG 50 NL
 
So i reraise him all in on the river and....

River: ($20.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $20.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $40.5</font>.

Final Pot: $81

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP3 has Kd 4h (full house, fours full of kings).
Hero has Qs Js (flush, king high).
Outcome: MP3 wins $81. </font>

.... stuff around my house gets broken


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