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rigoletto 09-29-2005 08:10 AM

22 LMP river donk bet
 
Party 30/60

I raise 22 LMP, overagressive CO 3-bets (his range is huge here), very loose BB calls.

Flop: Qs, 7d, 8d

check, check, bet, call, call

Turn: Qs, 7d, 8d 5h

check, check, bet, call, call

River: Qs, 7d, 8d 5h 4c

check, I bet...

Thomsen 09-29-2005 10:50 AM

Re: 22 LMP river donk bet
 
Overagressive CO ? I would be afraid that he might raise anything including A high...

Pepsquad 09-29-2005 11:02 AM

Re: 22 LMP river donk bet
 
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(his range is huge here)AND very loose BB calls.

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Nope. If these types of opponents caught anything, you're getting called. Save this sale for someone willing to buy it.

ike 09-29-2005 11:27 AM

Re: 22 LMP river donk bet
 
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I raise 22 LMP, overagressive CO 3-bets (his range is huge here), very loose BB calls.

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Did you forget to look at who was behind you or is this standard for you against the given opposition? If I'm raising 22 from anywhere other than the button its because I think I have a very good chance to win the blinds.
I was also about to say I hated postflop, but the more I think about it this looks pretty good. I still don't know about the turn call. Is CO so overaggressive that he's still autobetting the turn with alot of unpaired hands? If its now down to AK, T9, big diamonds, and hands that beat you, I think you fold. But if he'd still be pounding away with KT etc I guess you gotta look him up. With BB check/calling twice we've gotta assume he's on some sort of draw or I think even most of the dumber 30 players would put a little more pressure on you.
The river is also tricky. I'm not sure what you're doing here but it can't be that bad. Do you think you might get called by ace-high from the CO and force BB to fold the best hand rather than overcall? (This would be amazing) Do you think you can get a better hand to fold any other way? Is this just a valuebet? I can see any of these working out occasionally but I still think you mainly get called and lose. In any case its probably better than check/calling, if you really didn't think you could fold here.

rigoletto 09-30-2005 05:36 AM

Re: 22 LMP river donk bet
 
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If I'm raising 22 from anywhere other than the button its because I think I have a very good chance to win the blinds.

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There was a decent chance of winning the blinds or get it HU against BB and then take it on the flop.

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I still don't know about the turn call. Is CO so overaggressive that he's still autobetting the turn with alot of unpaired hands? If its now down to AK, T9, big diamonds, and hands that beat you, I think you fold. But if he'd still be pounding away with KT etc I guess you gotta look him up. With BB check/calling twice we've gotta assume he's on some sort of draw or I think even most of the dumber 30 players would put a little more pressure on you.

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I didn't decide to call the turn until BB just called again. And yes CO will make continuation bets on the turn.

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Do you think you might get called by ace-high from the CO and force BB to fold the best hand rather than overcall? (This would be amazing) Do you think you can get a better hand to fold any other way?

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This was my thinking at the time. I had already decided to call, so I figured a bet might get BB to fold something like A4d. I also think I can fold to a raise from CO. I'm still not convinced that betting is best since I can easily fold if CO bets and BB calls.

Thomsen 10-01-2005 03:01 AM

Re: 22 LMP river donk bet
 
You cant really fold if CO raises and BB folds can you ?


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