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10-14-2005 08:48 PM

If God exists...
 
First lets suppose that God does exist. Next lets suppose that God is all good. I happen to believe both the above. If these two statements are true then I don't believe that hell exists. At least not an eternal hell. How could a loving, forgiving god, allow for someone to suffer in hell?

Your thoughts...

spaminator101 10-14-2005 09:16 PM

Re: If God exists...
 
Um, why dont you read your Bible and come back to me on that one

10-14-2005 09:19 PM

Re: If God exists...
 
Lets not fall back on the bible...

Trantor 10-14-2005 09:25 PM

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First lets suppose that God does exist. Next lets suppose that God is all good. I happen to believe both the above. If these two statements are true then I don't believe that hell exists. At least not an eternal hell. How could a loving, forgiving god, allow for someone to suffer in hell?

Your thoughts...

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The supposed paradox arises from the fact that _you_ are attempting to say what is good having, in your premises, stated that God exists and He is all good. If He creates hell then that simply means that according to God's "morality" hell is not bad. You may think it is bad but it is not by your premises.

That is what faith is all about. Believing something even if irrational or seeming incomprhensible. Once you believe God can do nothing but good you have to accept all he does is good even if you don't like it.

10-14-2005 09:32 PM

Re: If God exists...
 
If Hell does exist then I believe God is not all good.

10-14-2005 09:32 PM

Re: If God exists...
 
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First lets suppose that God does exist. Next lets suppose that God is all good. I happen to believe both the above.

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What evidence do you have that a supreme creator must be all "good"? Certainly his creations may give one pause.

spaminator101 10-14-2005 09:37 PM

Re: If God exists...
 
God is all good but he doesn't let sin go unpunnished

10-14-2005 09:45 PM

Re: If God exists...
 
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God is all good but he doesn't let sin go unpunnished

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Ah, you must also have taken this course!

PSYCH 306 -- The Psychology of Supreme Beings
Credit: 4 hours
Terms: Fall/Spring
Description: In this course, students will learn the basics of supreme being psychology, to include their needs, wants, moral code, and anger responses. Emphasis will be on omnipotent, omniscient universe-creating gods, but other heavenly spirits will also be discussed. Course includes a lab in which students will conduct a video interview of a real supreme being and create a personality profile.

10-14-2005 09:48 PM

Re: If God exists...
 
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What evidence do you have that a supreme creator must be all "good"? Certainly his creations may give one pause.

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That's why I said "Lets suppose"

10-14-2005 09:50 PM

Re: If God exists...
 
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What evidence do you have that a supreme creator must be all "good"? Certainly his creations may give one pause.

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That's why I said "Lets suppose"

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Which you followed with "I happen to believe both the above."


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