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12-08-2005 10:59 AM

2 Pair against 2 All-ins on river
 
I have only Just joined the Table 3 hands ago and have no reads on the players. I think I did the right thing Here, Would be nice to know what everyone else would do.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($30.85)
MP :#A500AF(Villian)/ ($58.30)
CO :#A500AF(villan 2)/ ($45.55)
Button ($37.65)
SB ($53.55)
Hero ($49.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, MP :#A500AF(Villian)/ calls $0.50, CO :#A500AF(villan 2)/ calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, UTG folds, Villian calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">villan 2 raises to $2</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $1, Villian calls $1.

Turn: ($8.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, Villian calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">villan 2 raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $2, Villian calls $2.

River: ($20.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villian bets $51.8 (All-In)</font>, villan 2 calls $39.05 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $111.35

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Villian has 2c 9c (one pair, twos).
villan 2 has Ad Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: villan 2 wins $98.60. Villian wins $12.75. </font>

Isura 12-08-2005 11:02 AM

Re: 2 Pair against 2 All-ins on river
 
With the overcall on the river, this is a very easy fold.

But your flop and turn play leave much to be desired. I probably wouldn't lead this flop into 4 players. Atleast bet the pot on the flop. Lead the turn for more.

djoyce003 12-08-2005 11:03 AM

Re: 2 Pair against 2 All-ins on river
 
wow.....

Dude the turn is horrific. Lead for the pot. If you lead there for $2 and get minraised, you HAVE to come back over the top. You've got top two....realistically you are only fearing sets. There are straight and flush draws out galore and you are letting them chase them for free....absolutely horrible turn play.

Given how the turn went, I don't see how u are ahead after an all in and a call. I think this hand plays vastly different if you don't play the turn like a fish.

orange 12-08-2005 01:46 PM

Re: 2 Pair against 2 All-ins on river
 
Ugly turn. Pot it.

12-08-2005 01:50 PM

Re: 2 Pair against 2 All-ins on river
 
As played fold river; raise the turn big.

12-08-2005 02:28 PM

Re: 2 Pair against 2 All-ins on river
 
[ QUOTE ]
wow.....

Dude the turn is horrific. Lead for the pot. If you lead there for $2 and get minraised, you HAVE to come back over the top. You've got top two....realistically you are only fearing sets. There are straight and flush draws out galore and you are letting them chase them for free....absolutely horrible turn play.

Given how the turn went, I don't see how u are ahead after an all in and a call. I think this hand plays vastly different if you don't play the turn like a fish.

[/ QUOTE ]
This is pretty much what I was gonna say...but without calling a fish (to your face). [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

12-08-2005 02:51 PM

Re: 2 Pair against 2 All-ins on river
 
I think Villain 2's range might be some sort of PP or overpair. It may only be 99s or TTs because he limped but could be JJ. He may also have 44-77 and think he can fold out top pair with a raise. If he has 22 or 33 your in trouble.

Get aggressive and 3 bet villain 2 on the turn. He likes his hand and unless he has the set you're in good shape.

Villain 1 may be drawing to a straight. A 3 bet on the turn might fold him out, but even if it doesn't we'll take his money too and hope his draw doesn't get there.

12-08-2005 03:30 PM

Re: 2 Pair against 2 All-ins on river
 
Pot the turn. If a donkey pushes call. If a rock pushes fold.


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