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axeshigh 10-24-2005 07:46 PM

QQ first hand 55s
 
I raise to 75 UTG, the button pushes. What do I do next?

KingDan 10-24-2005 07:49 PM

Re: QQ first hand 55s
 
I call.
Lots of donks at 55.

Messy_Jesse 10-24-2005 07:51 PM

Re: QQ first hand 55s
 
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I call.

Lots of donks at 55.

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I agree. Also, usually AA or KK is gonna play this a little slower. You'll see them sometimes though.

handsome 10-24-2005 08:38 PM

Re: QQ first hand 55s
 
I encounter these situations quite often and I used to call every time until I realized it was a leak. I'm sure a call is +EV but sometimes you should forego a +EV situation for higher +EV situations in the future.

rbear 10-24-2005 08:41 PM

Re: QQ first hand 55s
 
not familiar w/ your personal style... but will you push Ax from button (obviously +EV w/ image) and fold this preflop... too many donks 55 and lower, insta-call imo. specific reasons why you think this is a leak?

handsome 10-24-2005 08:51 PM

Re: QQ first hand 55s
 
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not familiar w/ your personal style... but will you push Ax from button (obviously +EV w/ image) and fold this preflop... too many donks 55 and lower, insta-call imo. specific reasons why you think this is a leak?

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What do you mean will I push Ax from the button and fold this preflop? Why is this a leak? Let's say instead of QQ, you have JJ. Would you call a push? Your answer should be "no" and your reasoning should be similar to mine when I have QQ.

rbear 10-24-2005 08:59 PM

Re: QQ first hand 55s
 
do i fold JJ prefold, yes...
do i fold QQ prefold, no...
why? because only hands that dominate me preflop are KK and AA, and I have a really hard time puttin villian on this...
AK is possible, but I think I have enough of an edge here to make this +ev... all other hands I dominate

w/ JJ adds another dominating hand, and another flip

i guess it depends on your individual goals, but i exploit this edge

tigerite 10-24-2005 09:00 PM

Re: QQ first hand 55s
 
JJ adds two other flips, AQ and KQ.

I would generally call here, by the way.

rbear 10-24-2005 09:02 PM

Re: QQ first hand 55s
 
thanks for catching that, (been a long day), guess donks do push KQ too [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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