Party 5/10 vs. 10/20: 2K game easier?
 

Ok, so in the last week or so I've been experiencing some serious swings. I have been playing 5/10NL 6-max on Party and have been struggling. Sunday I dropped 10K playing 5/10 but was playing great poker. I have never lost to so many 2-outers, gutshots, etc. on the river. I lost a couple set over sets, two pairs vs. top pair allin on the flop getting rivered, basically, flush draws going allin on my overpair and hitting... it was bad. I somehow didn't tilt too bad. I may have tilted 1.5 buyins at most. I decided since I was playing so well, I would take a shot at 10/20 even though I was down $10K. I played for an hour and made $5K back and went to sleep. Monday I had a +7.2K session at 5/10, Tuesday had a break-even session, and yesterday I winded up dropping 8K at 5/10, again to mostly beats. I couldn't win a 60/40, 70/30 to save my life, it was bad. So once again, I move up to 10/20 and just start winning these hands off the biggest donks. The shortstacks go all-in with ANY ace, and then when my kicker(9) beats them, they show me A6o as if to say "See, I had a big hand". Finished my Wednesday 10/20 session up ~4K, and still made a few bad calls/plays.

I guess what I'm getting at, am I just getting lucky with my timing? Are people being aggressive with me because they know I'm a new player to the limits? I heard someone once say, build up a bankroll from 3/6, and skip 5/10 cause the 10/20 game is a bit easier, although everyone on the forums seems to think otherwise. Just thought I'd open up a little discussion on the differences, i.e. more fish vs. less fish, bigger fish vs. smaller fish, more aggressive vs. more passive players.

I'll leave you all with the donk play of the night, and it wasn't an image play cause the guy left the table immediately after the hand.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($2281.25)
UTG ($1451)
UTG+1 ($799)
UTG+2 ($1740.30)
MP1 ($897)
MP2 ($2000)
MP3 ($1208)
Hero ($4159)
Button ($1970)
SB ($1129)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls $20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $20, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $95</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $260</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $1113 (All-In), Hero calls $948.

Flop: ($2486) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($2486) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($2486) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $2486

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP3 has 9h 6h (one pair, sixes).
Hero has Kc Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $2486. </font>

Re: Party 5/10 vs. 10/20: 2K game easier?
 

the 10-20 and the 5-10 are both hard games, and, IMO neither one is much easier or harder than the other, so, I reccomend playing the one that is right for your BR.



Tex

Re: Party 5/10 vs. 10/20: 2K game easier?
 

The 10-20 is much harder than the 5-10 IMO. The reason for this is that players will call you on the flop with nothing when you are out of position and take it away from you on the turn. They are much more agressive in 10-20 as well.

Neither game is a cakewalk though.

Re: Party 5/10 vs. 10/20: 2K game easier?
 

That was my first thoughts too when I tried 2kNL.
Many respected posters here say that 2k is harder more aggressive etc. so I decided to stay at 1k for w while (a while = at least 60k and probably 100k hands).
Assuming I would move up to 2k (I have enough bankroll) and 4table full tables I would need a winrate slightly above 5PTBB/100 to match my hourly rate at 1k (6tabling 6max).
Now I know it wont be easy if at all doable + the games are more aggressive and swings are bigger. So I am not sure moving up is worth it (at least for me).

Best wishes

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The 10-20 is much harder than the 5-10 IMO. The reason for this is that players will call you on the flop with nothing when you are out of position and take it away from you on the turn. They are much more agressive in 10-20 as well.

Neither game is a cakewalk though.

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My hierarchy is 5-10 6-max harder than 10-20 10-max harder than 5-10 10-max. You get a lot more danving shorthanded. Profitability is roughly the same order with the first two essentially tied.

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The 10-20 is much harder than the 5-10 IMO. The reason for this is that players will call you on the flop with nothing when you are out of position and take it away from you on the turn. They are much more agressive in 10-20 as well.

Neither game is a cakewalk though.

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My hierarchy is 5-10 6-max harder than 10-20 10-max harder than 5-10 10-max. You get a lot more danving shorthanded. Profitability is roughly the same order with the first two essentially tied.

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You think 5/10 6max is hard? What? I'm really confused. I admit I didn't play in it much and I played on skins and not Party. But the same guys were playing in it that I've been killing at 2/4 6max for months. They are not good. At all.

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I was surprised by this as well. my limited exp in the 10/20 full is that it's much harder than 5/10 6max. I hate playing full though.

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You think 5/10 6max is hard?

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TWP you are yet to see 2k donks...

Re: Party 5/10 vs. 10/20: 2K game easier?
 

All the 2k games are harder than all the 1k games.
The 2k short is much harder than the 2k full.

The End.

Re: Party 5/10 vs. 10/20: 2K game easier?
 

more aggressive games always SEEM softer in isolation. how many times have people commented on the 25/50 and 50/100 UB games being that way?