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Jaran 05-27-2005 01:08 PM

Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely
 
So, I'm just getting back to playing after a 4mo layoff, and I want to make sure I'm not making any serious mistakes. SB is raising light, the other 3 players are pretty passive calling stations. Raise pf? Thx in advance.

-Jaran



Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (18 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 21 BB

deception5 05-27-2005 01:11 PM

Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely
 
This looks good. I would probably raise preflop but if you think the SB will raise calling is good too (and this set you up nicely for the flop). If you didn't think SB would raise, it might be worth raising to shut out the blinds.

parappa 05-27-2005 01:12 PM

Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely
 
I'd raise preflop, and since everyone's in I think that I'd call the flop and raise a turn blank.

Since you describe MP3 as passive, I tend to credit this bet more than most people do. Against someone that I have enough hands with, I'll be able to conclude I'm behind. I still think the turn raise is good in this spot, though.

I think the river bet's okay, with the same disclaimer as the turn. If I strongly suspected that MP3 wouldn't bet without a hand that beats me, I'd just show it down.

milesdyson 05-27-2005 01:12 PM

Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely
 
Yes, raise preflop. I like the flop raise because it yields immediate value, as opposed to calling there and watching it get checked to you on the turn.

Turn raise is good - looks like MP3 has maybe a weak top pair and is putting you on a flush draw. He doesn't want to give you a free card. You're most likely ahead, imo, and these players are willing to coldcall with weak hands/draws. I love the raise.

And nice value bet on the end.

k000k 05-27-2005 01:13 PM

Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely
 
PF: I wouldn't raise it, I don't like all the players in the hand. I'd fold it.

Postflop, looks fine, there's nothing too scary out there, you've got top pair with a good kicker and nobody is giving you any resistance.

kenberman 05-27-2005 01:15 PM

Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely
 
welcome back!
interesting hand. I'm a bit out of touch with full ring games, but I think the the pf limp is ok.

after I get all those turn callers, I think I'm taking a free showdown.

SlantNGo 05-27-2005 01:43 PM

Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely
 
LEAK! If one of the limpers was tight I think about folding, otherwise it's either a raise or call. I prefer raise.

[ QUOTE ]
PF: I wouldn't raise it, I don't like all the players in the hand. I'd fold it.


[/ QUOTE ]

DMBFan23 05-27-2005 01:52 PM

Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely
 
you probably have a value raise pf, but calling isn't terrible either. in fact, I call.

I think you played postflop beautifully. awesome river value bet.

DeuceKicker 05-27-2005 01:57 PM

Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely
 
I don't think I like raising this pre-flop, especially for someone who is out of practice. KJ is too easily dominated and a raise from the button isn't going to thin the field.

xLukex 05-27-2005 02:02 PM

Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely
 
[ QUOTE ]
PF: I wouldn't raise it, I don't like all the players in the hand. I'd fold it.

Postflop, looks fine, there's nothing too scary out there, you've got top pair with a good kicker and nobody is giving you any resistance.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wrong.

You're on the button, and there are plenty of players in this hand. Call. Also, OP has a good read on the players, so he has enough information to make this a safe play.

Also, the fact that he has TPGK all the way through helps. I bet he took this one down.


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