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Gustavo 05-28-2005 11:04 PM

AA , Call \\ Fold , criticize this line
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) converter

Hero ($122.50)
Button ($10.25)
SB ($66.55)
BB ($46.35)
UTG ($109.35)
UTG+1 ($26.80)
MP1 ($37.90)
MP2 ($207.85)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $3.

Flop: ($10.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $203.85</font>,

res1cue 05-28-2005 11:15 PM

Re: AA , Call \\ Fold , criticize this line
 
to me that just spells out S E T

heretowin 05-28-2005 11:16 PM

Re: AA , Call \\ Fold , criticize this line
 
The pre-flop raise is low, $6 should do fine.

The more I look at it the more it looks like he has a pocket pair and is just trying to get in cheaply and see if he can flop a set. I just don't see somebody check-raising with a flush draw. But, maybe I'm wrong, he could have over cards with the flush draw. On the flop I like a higher bet espcially since the flop can coordinate with cards somebody might limp with.

I'd have to muck this.

Sephus 05-28-2005 11:54 PM

Re: AA , Call \\ Fold , criticize this line
 
this is a set too often to call the push.

i prefer to raise a little bigger preflop, your flop play was OK.

Malachii 05-29-2005 12:07 AM

Re: AA , Call \\ Fold , criticize this line
 
Set or two pair both very likely here. I hope you were able to get away from this.

Gustavo 05-29-2005 01:29 AM

RESULTS
 
He Showed KK
he limped and FLAT CALLED my Raise putting me on a 1010~QQ pp range probably by the way he played.
In his head he was thinking he trapped my LOWER PP, and luckly he played it as a set, two pair , or even str8 flush, .... pushing me off the hand.
Man i was boiling after i saw that KK.

WHAT I HATE IN THIS HAND HE COMPLETLY MYSPLAY IT AND GOT LUCKY !!!!!

I FOLDED

stu-unger 05-29-2005 01:35 AM

Re: RESULTS
 
in my opinion it makes no difference what he showed u made no error he just way over played KK. if u call this bet in the future it'll definitely be -ev. i hate laying down the best hand as much as the next guy but thats just a sign u r a good player and screw the guy who over plays KK that badly youll get his stack in the next 2 orbits.

FreakDaddy 05-29-2005 01:51 AM

Re: AA , Call \\ Fold , criticize this line
 
Well it's either a set or a semi-sophisticated AKs nut flush play. I'm sure he's thinking with your pre-flop and consequently pre-flop raise that you have some sort of pocket pair and he's going to take a shot to push you off the pot. It's a tough play, but I'd lay it down.

happyjaypee 05-29-2005 03:10 AM

Re: RESULTS
 
Oh man that sucks...

But I would have mucked it too. Don't tilt and move on, and don't ever think you made a bad play there and call in the futur. He is defenitly going to bleed chips so stick around.


-Happy [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

pottie 05-29-2005 04:34 AM

Re: RESULTS
 
So this looks like a good play against any 2+2er with any overpair on the flop...


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