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xJMPx 12-08-2005 05:50 PM

($22): Exploiting the bubble, how bad was this?
 
($22): Exploiting the bubble, how bad was this?

7 consecutive hands…is this terrible?

PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 8 - 4 players (Converter: PGC)

Chip Counts:
Button: 395 Chips
SB: 2190 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 2916 Chips</font>
UTG: 2499 Chips

Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Blinds are 200/400

PreFlop
<font color="red">UTG RAISES ($1000)</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>, <font color="blue">SB folds</font>, Hero is All-In, <font color="blue">UTG folds</font>

Final Pot:4116 Chips

PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 8 - 4 players (Converter: PGC)

Chip Counts:
Button: 1990 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 4116 Chips</font>
BB: 1499 Chips
UTG: 395 Chips

Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Blinds are 200/400

PreFlop
<font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>, Hero is All-In, <font color="blue">BB folds</font>

Final Pot:4516 Chips

PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 8 - 3 players (Converter: PGC)

Chip Counts:
<font color="red">Hero: 4516 Chips</font>
SB: 1099 Chips
BB: 395 Chips
UTG: 1990 Chips

Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Blinds are 200/400

PreFlop
BB posts BB, <font color="green">UTG Calls</font>, Hero is All-In, <font color="blue">SB folds</font>, <font color="blue">BB folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG folds</font>


PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 8 - 4 players (Converter: PGC)

Chip Counts:
Button: 899 Chips
SB: 1385 Chips
BB: 1590 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 4126 Chips</font>

Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Blinds are 200/400

PreFlop
Hero is All-In, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>, <font color="blue">SB folds</font>, <font color="blue">BB folds</font>

Final Pot:4726 Chips

PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 8 - 3 players (Converter: PGC)

Chip Counts:
Button: 1185 Chips
SB: 1190 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 4726 Chips</font>
UTG: 899 Chips

Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Blinds are 200/400

PreFlop
Hero posts BB, <font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>, <font color="blue">SB folds</font>

Final Pot:600 Chips

PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 8 - 4 players

Chip Counts:
Button: 990 Chips
Hero: 4926 Chips
BB: 899 Chips
UTG: 1185 Chips

Hero is SB with 2h 2s
Blinds are 200/400

PreFlop
UTG folds, Button folds, Hero is All-In, BB is All-In

PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 8 - 4 players (Converter: PGC)

Chip Counts:
<font color="red">Hero: 4027 Chips</font>
SB: 1798 Chips
BB: 1185 Chips
UTG: 990 Chips

Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Blinds are 200/400

PreFlop
<font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, Hero is All-In, SB is All-In, <font color="blue">BB folds</font>

xJMPx 12-08-2005 06:15 PM

Re: ($22): Exploiting the bubble, how bad was this?
 
bump. I thought this would get some discussion, if for no other reason than the first hand was, IMO, pretty stupid.

mlagoo 12-08-2005 06:17 PM

Re: ($22): Exploiting the bubble, how bad was this?
 
the initial raise is pretty reckless, but not necessarily stupid... after that it all seems ok.

pineapple888 12-08-2005 06:18 PM

Re: ($22): Exploiting the bubble, how bad was this?
 
The first one looks suicidal to me at the 22s, but it worked, so there you have it.

The 84s looks very shaky after a limper.

Other than that, I think you were first in the pot with decent hands each time, so those were fine.

xJMPx 12-08-2005 06:22 PM

Re: ($22): Exploiting the bubble, how bad was this?
 
[ QUOTE ]
The 84s looks very shaky after a limper.

[/ QUOTE ]

Here, the BB was all-in because he couldn't cover the BB. So, I wanted to isolate against the BB to either knock him out, or keep the bubble live and not let the other guy win the pot. Here, I figured I was sacrificing the 395 which I could pick up the next hand with a steal.

pineapple888 12-08-2005 06:36 PM

Re: ($22): Exploiting the bubble, how bad was this?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
The 84s looks very shaky after a limper.

[/ QUOTE ]

Here, the BB was all-in because he couldn't cover the BB. So, I wanted to isolate against the BB to either knock him out, or keep the bubble live and not let the other guy win the pot. Here, I figured I was sacrificing the 395 which I could pick up the next hand with a steal.

[/ QUOTE ]

Of course, and it's a great strategy until UTG spite-calls you [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

patrick dicaprio 12-08-2005 07:40 PM

Re: ($22): Exploiting the bubble, how bad was this?
 
i cant believe you didnt get called!!! hey it worked so i guess it is good right? you had pretty good hands so i thinhk four handed it is not bad on its own but i still cant believe they let you get away with this. if i were the small stack i would have called with almost any two reasonable cards.

pat

Pat

xJMPx 12-08-2005 08:36 PM

Re: ($22): Exploiting the bubble, how bad was this?
 
[ QUOTE ]
i cant believe you didnt get called!!! hey it worked so i guess it is good right? you had pretty good hands so i thinhk four handed it is not bad on its own but i still cant believe they let you get away with this. if i were the small stack i would have called with almost any two reasonable cards.

pat

Pat

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you talking about a specific hand? As for the short stack calling me, in many of those hands there is no clear short stack.

12-08-2005 08:44 PM

Re: ($22): Exploiting the bubble, how bad was this?
 
I don't push the 1st and 3rd. The rest is how I'd play them.

kevkev60614 12-09-2005 10:17 AM

Re: ($22): Exploiting the bubble, how bad was this?
 
I wouldn't push the first and third. Given that you pushed the first three, I wouldn't push the fourth. Given that you pushed the first six, I wouldn't push the seventh.

I'm not aggressive enough with the big stack on the bubble.


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