This one really confused me.
 

Villain is 30/15/2 after 25 hands. That doesnt mean much I know. My thoughts on flop are if he is solid I cant make much on this hand, and could easily lose a bit. If he is donk I could easily get put to the test (with best hand) and have to fold. I let the timer run to 5 seconds before I made my decision, I was REALLY stumped.

IF he is normal 50nl Donk his range is something like Flush Draw>ace>crap draw (gutshot), Air, small pair, boat. Something like that. What to do against an unknown like him???

My image is solid, we had a SUPER AGGRO LAGGRO who I stacked preflop with a donkish sb limp reraise all in. (folds to SB, I limp with QQ. He makes it 10bb, I push, He calls, Ace flops, MHIG)
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($71.59)
Hero ($107.35)
Button ($58.30)
SB ($28.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $6</font>, Hero ???

Re: This one really confused me.
 

At this level cold calling won't usually send a message to most people. Overbetting the pot into the pre-flop raiser seems like a play too sophisticated for this level, so it smells like bluff. If you had a better read, I'd just call down here and let him continue to bluff, but as is I'd rather raise here and take down a small pot, or dump it if he comes back over the top.

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I dont like raising KQ off in UTG becuase it's to marginal a hand and are oop when i get a caller [except in blinds]. This case villan can have anything from AQ-Ax to Kx but i dont think i want to risk any chips in this hand. Your either going to win small pots with hands like these or lose big ones.

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I dont like raising KQ off in UTG becuase it's to marginal a hand and are oop when i get a caller [except in blinds]. This case villan can have anything from AQ-Ax to Kx but i dont think i want to risk any chips in this hand. Your either going to win small pots with hands like these or lose big ones.

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I think 4 handed this is the ideal play. Perhaps I'm wrong and someone can correct me, but I'd raise this everytime as well.

Re: This one really confused me.
 

Raise and fold to reraise NEVER happens at these levels. You raise, villain calls with Ace, flush draw, maybe even queen. THen what?

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If you raise a decent amount and he calls, then you use your position and play poker. He can't have ace AND flush draw. He either has one or the other or neither. Without a read, I'd raise here a modest amount and see what happends on the turn if he calls.

Re: This one really confused me.
 

sorry didn't realize it was 4 handed. Yes raise pf is correct but im still folding the flop.

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sorry didn't realize it was 4 handed. Yes raise pf is correct but im still folding the flop.

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If you had an ace, why would you overbet the pot INTO the pre-flop raiser? I've seen people make these kinds of plays at 5/2 and above, but at .25/.50? More likely a bluff.

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why? becuase it's deceptive and makes worse hands try to bluff them out of the pot. Thats why [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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why? becuase it's deceptive and makes worse hands try to bluff them out of the pot. Thats why [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Yes, like I said, I see this at higher limits, but people at these levels commonly like to sloooowplay, you know it's the cool thing to do right? They bet there made hands weak (to induce action) and bet there bluffs or marginal hands strong(generally speaking). I think long term raising here is +EV. Just my two cents.

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My problem with raising here is if he has nothing, I win 20bb, end of story.

Now, if he has something I raise here, he calls (almost never reraises). Turn is blank, I check behind, river is blank, he pots it. I call?? I pay off his Ace here, win a bluff.

Now, clubs are Certainly in his range, which makes this much more complicated when a club hits (or doesnt) turn/river.

Raising the flop just gets the pot big and there are LOTS of cards that can come on turn/river that either A) Scare me off B)Make me pay off C)Beat a bluff. I think if we raise, and he calls, we are in a ton of [censored]

Raise fold to 3bet
 

First of all, if villain would 3bet here on the flop, then raise fold 3bet is the best line. However, I find that villains at these stakes almost never throw in the 3bet (unless its min 3-bet). So when he flat calls, we have a much bigger pot to deal with, and a ton of cards that could either scare us or cause us to lose alot more.

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My problem with raising here is if he has nothing, I win 20bb, end of story.

Now, if he has something I raise here, he calls (almost never reraises). Turn is blank, I check behind, river is blank, he pots it. I call?? I pay off his Ace here, win a bluff.

Now, clubs are Certainly in his range, which makes this much more complicated when a club hits (or doesnt) turn/river.

Raising the flop just gets the pot big and there are LOTS of cards that can come on turn/river that either A) Scare me off B)Make me pay off C)Beat a bluff. I think if we raise, and he calls, we are in a ton of [censored]

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Yes, and I understand your problem. Read my inital post. I stated that if I have a read I just CALL here and allow him to continue to bluff into me, but without a solid read I'd just raise here and if he checks the turn I'd bet. If he calls then I know I'm beat, but he's likely only betting the river if you're beat. Definately don't check the turn if you raise this flop.

BUMP b4 sleep
 

Wacha think on this one guys (COUGH...AJ...COUGH)