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IbrakeFORrivers 11-22-2005 08:42 PM

POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
If not, (or if so) explain why....

beavens 11-22-2005 08:45 PM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
no, i don't believe i am good enough to be staked right now.

plus i think grinding my way up starting from 25NL will help my game out infinitely more than if you sat me down at 200+NL table.

.edit not that i implied i WILL be good enough to stake, just saying now there's no way in hell it'd be worth it. yeah, im profitable at 25NL, but anyone playing ABC can be as well.

IbrakeFORrivers 11-22-2005 08:46 PM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
Ok not necessarily ME, but SOMEONE. And the benefit would be that you could play in higher-stakes games. Assume also, that there is minimum responsibility. If you lose, you lose. THe beneficiary is not a friend. Nor will he break your arms.

TheWorstPlayer 11-22-2005 09:04 PM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
Yes, I would like someone to stake me. I'm pretty sure that I'm a winning player at 5/10 but I don't have the bankroll for it. So I can sit and grind out the 5/10 bankroll by playing 2/4 for another two months or so, but it would certainly be faster and more profitable to get someone to stake me 10K and then to jump right into the 5/10 games.

rikz 11-23-2005 02:59 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
No. I have a regular job, a family, and a nice hobby that takes up all my "free" time playing SSNLHE that makes a little money (better than the stock market for a $300 investment + books!). My goal is to improve, build a bank roll, and move up as high a limit as I can play at with a positive winrate. I think getting somebody else's money involved would make the whole thing a lot more stressful, and therefore a lot less fun.

11-23-2005 03:03 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
yes, I would like to, because I tend to play better when its not my money I'm gambling, and I can play at levels that my current bankroll may not allow

soah 11-23-2005 03:05 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
I prefer keeping all of my profits instead of half of them.

TheWorstPlayer 11-23-2005 03:10 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I prefer keeping all of my profits instead of half of them.

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2.5x/2>x

yvesaint 11-23-2005 03:13 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
yes id love someone to stake me, so i can play 50/100 where people actually respect my raises.

soah 11-23-2005 05:10 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
Only if you maintain the same winrate.

ajmargarine 11-23-2005 05:15 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
No, playing with other people's money is an unknown intangible that could possibly throw me for a loop. I'd rather not find out how I'd react. Plus, I'd rather keep 100% of profit.

Skuzzy 11-23-2005 05:23 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
Often, when I've done OK in a session, I will make looser calls than I would normally. I can just see me thinking "there's 200 in the pot and it's 100 to me to call....hmmmmmm.... I guess really it's only 50 to me since half of its someone elses...so I have odds!" [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

4_2_it 11-23-2005 07:47 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
No, because I suck at poker and I already have someone who complains about all the time I spend playing this game.

emil3000 11-23-2005 08:35 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yes, I would like someone to stake me. I'm pretty sure that I'm a winning player at 5/10 but I don't have the bankroll for it. So I can sit and grind out the 5/10 bankroll by playing 2/4 for another two months or so, but it would certainly be faster and more profitable to get someone to stake me 10K and then to jump right into the 5/10 games.

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Hm, I have the opposite problem, where I am overrolled for 2/4, but the times I've played at 5/10 I feel like I've been playing scared and in a style that is not mine, and not a winning one. I actually thought about offering to stake you, but it would be a bit weird to stake someone to play higher than myself, and 10k would be a fair chunk of my br.

phillydilly 11-23-2005 08:57 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
I'd like to be staked simply for brick and mortar
the 1/2NL 200 max at my local casinois the easiest game i've ever seen, having a bankroll for NL25/NL50, I dont really have the spare cash to play in it often.

RikaKazak 11-23-2005 09:08 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
Actually I am currently being staked. Reason why is I'm buying my 3rd house right now and just tapped out lots of my bankroll.

It's good for both of us cause he gave me enough to play NL1K instead of the NL 400 I used to play a lot. Overall I make less a hour cause I only get 1/2 of what I make, but it's still a good deal for me, the reason being is the profit I'm making from this house (great deal from owner trying to get out quickly) will more than make up for the difference in my hourly wage.

Overall for me and my staker, win win.

TheWorstPlayer 11-23-2005 09:24 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Yes, I would like someone to stake me. I'm pretty sure that I'm a winning player at 5/10 but I don't have the bankroll for it. So I can sit and grind out the 5/10 bankroll by playing 2/4 for another two months or so, but it would certainly be faster and more profitable to get someone to stake me 10K and then to jump right into the 5/10 games.

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Hm, I have the opposite problem, where I am overrolled for 2/4, but the times I've played at 5/10 I feel like I've been playing scared and in a style that is not mine, and not a winning one. I actually thought about offering to stake you, but it would be a bit weird to stake someone to play higher than myself, and 10k would be a fair chunk of my br.

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I definitely wouldn't enter into a staking agreement with someone for whom losing the 10K would make as large of an impact as it sounds like it would for you. When I tilt off half my BR, I would need a backer who wouldn't flip out! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Edit: If you want to discuss options for helping you beat 5/10, though, definitely feel free to PM me. Getting your own game to the point where you feel confident at 5/10 will certainly be the best long term solution for you.

emil3000 11-23-2005 09:30 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
Yeah I know staking is a bad idea, it just entered my mind, since I've got like 15k in my bankroll that I don't need to play my limits.

I've still got a fairly respectable winrate at 2/4, 5.4BB/100 over the last 30k hands, while in my opinion not running that great. That's really almost all the 6max poker I've played, which also is a factor why I don't want to step up.

beavens 11-23-2005 12:31 PM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
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No, because I suck at poker and I already have someone who complains about all the time I spend playing this game.

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lol - the woman, right? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

GrunchCan 11-23-2005 12:40 PM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
No, I don't know if I (or anyone) could remain strategically unaffected, and I also like to be as independant as possible with such things.

Back when I was a limit player I had to cash out most of my bankroll to give to uncle sam. I got numerous offers to stake me to rebuild, but I politely refused them all. I don't regret that decision for any reason.

ajmargarine 11-24-2005 12:21 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
After watching Live at the Bike tonite, I would accept being staked in this game. It's pretty much the caliber of a NL25 game. Maybe NL50, but that's pushing it. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

yvesaint 11-24-2005 12:23 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
o right, if we're counting live games, id LOVE to be staked for any 5/5+ NL live game ....foxwoods sounds especially juicy

ajmargarine 11-24-2005 12:29 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
These guys are playing 50/100 NL. I think that the variance would be insane however.

teamdonkey 11-24-2005 12:31 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yes, I would like someone to stake me. I'm pretty sure that I'm a winning player at 5/10 but I don't have the bankroll for it. So I can sit and grind out the 5/10 bankroll by playing 2/4 for another two months or so, but it would certainly be faster and more profitable to get someone to stake me 10K and then to jump right into the 5/10 games.

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noone in their right mind would ever stake you for 5/10.
















































and by that i mean, i would jump at the chance [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

12-02-2005 05:08 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
I'd want someone to stake me because currently I'm in the midst of paying off the remnants of a messy breakup with a girl with a terrible financial mind. Paying off an eviction, and more - takes all of the cash I make working.

Whereas I might be able to find a spare $50 or $100 lying around in the next few weeks, that's not really enough to play anything without a terrible risk of ruin. Well, $110 would be enough to restart in small SNG.

But in response to the poll, I would say yes - but only with a deal that was hammered out as to exact percentages of profits, date of breaking the deal, and with someone I could be in direct contact with at least daily. Someone to discuss hands with, etc - since it'd be their money I'd really want someone that had a true interest in the game, maybe even willing to mentor a bit.

beset7 12-02-2005 05:23 AM

Re: POLL: Would you want someone to stake you?
 
I staked someone one time and it was OK I guess. I really don't think staking is a great idea unless it's just a friend helping out a good player and they don't have a huge profit motive.


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