Civilization IV, Baddest Beat of my Life
 

Civilization IV, 5-handed
Hero is dealt a Gunship.
Hero sends Gunship to Villian.
Villian shows Archers.
Hero attacks.
Villian defends.
Archers destroy Hero's gunship.

This is the baddest beat of my life. How the hell does a modern, heavily armored helicopter get shot down by godamn arrows!? I DUNNO HOW THESE [censored] FISH KEEP CALLING DOWN WITH INFERIOR HOLDINGS AND DRAWING OUT ON ME. WTF WTF ARE THE ODDS? THIS [censored] IS SO DAMN RIGGED.

Civilization IV is like electronic crack.

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The archers could be fortified in a city, or your gunship could be really hurt, which makes it weaker in combat.

Also, the p*ker terms are a big no-no on this forum.

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You obviously dont know anything about civilization. Did you want the archers to not try to fight your helicopter? That copter getting shot down is good because now he's going to think its a smart idea to keep fighting with the archers.

I get happy when my helicopters are shot down by archers...

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First, funny. When I laugh out loud at a post, I am happy.

Second, I saw the attack, and I'm pretty sure those arrows had those plastique explosive tips. Robin Hood capped one of those babies in your fuel tank, and that was that.

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I predict this thread will be the new baddest beat of your life

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Don't mess with the
http://civfanatics.com/civ4/info/units/unit0108.jpg
n00b.

And I know what you mean with the Civ4 = Electronic Crack comment.

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ok, even a teetering barely alive gunship with only a sword and a pair of matches should beat an archer.

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[censored] the haters. I laughed. I haven't played the new Civ yet, but I have fond memories of my Panzers dieing at the hands of ancient spearman from Civ3.

Also, this trend of posts consisting entirely of "*" is gay as hell.

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this game has consumed my life, too

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Archers can shoot off arrows with quite a bit of force and accuracy, it's conceivable to believe that a well placed shot could hit the pilot and take your helicopter down. Also your helicopter is probably not as well armored as you think it is, there's really no such thing as a heavily armored helicopter. Armor=weight.

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D10,

Gay.

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This is the baddest beat of my life. How the hell does a modern, heavily armored helicopter get shot down by godamn arrows!? I DUNNO HOW THESE [censored] FISH KEEP CALLING DOWN WITH INFERIOR HOLDINGS AND DRAWING OUT ON ME. WTF WTF ARE THE ODDS? THIS [censored] IS SO DAMN RIGGED.

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You obviously dont know anything about civilization. Did you want the archers to not try to fight your helicopter? That copter getting shot down is good because now he's going to think its a smart idea to keep fighting with the archers.

I get happy when my helicopters are shot down by archers...

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These are two of the funniest posts I've ever read. Both dangerous close to that card game. And I agree that posts consisting of "*" are dumb.

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LOL I had the same thing happen, my helicopter got totally pwned by a single musketman. WTF?

Honestly, civ 4 is a decent game, but the combat modeling sucks so bad that it takes away a huge part of the joy to me. If I use it either to defend myself or as an alternative way of winning to cultural victory or dominance, I get very bored by how lackluster it is and how much of an afterthought it is. Honestly, it kind of sinks the game for me when such a central part of it is so clumsy and washed out.

I hate seeing *** posts, and some civ4
 

is it just me, or is people typing in *, or **, or *** just not funny? I think anybody who replies with a post just of stars should actually be given a star!

anyway, i just bought civ IV. I own all previous civs and was addicted to them all. im kinda bummed since civ IV doesnt seem to be working at all.

but anyways . . . i thought as the game has evolved, the game designers pretty much made it impossible for something like what happened to occur? I remeber in the days of civ-1, that pesky veteran phalax could beat a battleship. but they made a whole new combat system so this basically would never happen!

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Yeah, it is ridiculous sometimes.

I am hoping for a Colonization II.

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Stupidest cliche scene in the movies is an unarmed helicopter chasing down some guy. The sad truth is, against an unarmed helicopter, a guy on the ground with a large rock or stick can easily take it down if it did chase him. Simply toss large rock or stick straight up into the rotor blades.

Now, against an ARMED helicopter, I imagine the archers are winning due to maintenance issues. Gunships are delicate things and sometimes they just fall out of the sky.

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I read a book called "Chickenhawk" by a guy who was a chopper pilot in Vietnam. He regularly landed in clearings that were too small to land in, as did all the other pilots, by actually chopping through foliage on the way down. So a stick isn't going to do much. If you got hit by one of those blades it would cut you in half.

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LOL I had the same thing happen, my helicopter got totally pwned by a single musketman. WTF?

Honestly, civ 4 is a decent game, but the combat modeling sucks so bad that it takes away a huge part of the joy to me. If I use it either to defend myself or as an alternative way of winning to cultural victory or dominance, I get very bored by how lackluster it is and how much of an afterthought it is. Honestly, it kind of sinks the game for me when such a central part of it is so clumsy and washed out.

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if the better tech always won finland, afghanistan, vietnam, hell russia US and germany would all be speaking different languages right now...

sometimes, weird [censored] happens. I agree I hate it when it happens in the game, but you can lose.

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By stick I meant something 2 or 3 inches in diameter. No pilot wants to hit something that big. For that matter, they really don't want to hit a human being either. There's a good chance of them going down as well.

The tip of a rotor blade is going roughly 500 mph. If it hits anything of substance, it will destroy that thing, but also damage itself. And an unbalanced rotor, which the damage will cause, is not a good thing.

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I wrote an original Slashdot published review for Civ III about 3 yrs ago - I got a nice little line in there about telling the Linux community this was a game that one should buy Windows for.

I've played Civ 4 and I really like it - feels more streamlined - but I've NEVER played it generally from a military standpoint unless I could justify it - (me and a guy on an island where he has no iron and I do, for example) -cause it's a toughie to protect EVERYTHING -

You sort of have a hedgehog defense - with stacked strongpoints, and there's just too many damn ways for armies to get around you - no such thing as static lines in this game unless you wanna cough up a LOT of units - LOL.

but as a whole, I really like it - bitching aside about bad beats - I'd love to get a group together to try the multiplayer option sometime.

RB

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I think bicyclekick is really playing this heavily. Maybe you can hook up with him. In a gaming way.

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I wrote an original Slashdot published review for Civ III about 3 yrs ago - I got a nice little line in there about telling the Linux community this was a game that one should buy Windows for.

I've played Civ 4 and I really like it - feels more streamlined - but I've NEVER played it generally from a military standpoint unless I could justify it - (me and a guy on an island where he has no iron and I do, for example) -cause it's a toughie to protect EVERYTHING -

You sort of have a hedgehog defense - with stacked strongpoints, and there's just too many damn ways for armies to get around you - no such thing as static lines in this game unless you wanna cough up a LOT of units - LOL.

but as a whole, I really like it - bitching aside about bad beats - I'd love to get a group together to try the multiplayer option sometime.

RB

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ive played a little bit multiway w/ my roommate. its OK, you really need to set aside alot of time in order to do this though. (nature of the game!!)

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There's a Civ 3? wow!

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How the hell does a modern, heavily armored helicopter get shot down by godamn arrows!?

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Rambo only needed 1 arrow. With a team of archers this would be childsplay.

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In Civilization terms, the Iraqi insurgents are probably on the level of Riflemen or Grenadiers. Yet they're not exactly rolling over for our stacks of Mech Inf, Modern Armor, and Stealth Bombers. The archers probably picked up some modern technology. Maybe they're strapping sticks of dynamite to their arrows.

Speaking of dynamite arrows, has anybody played Gun? Fun little game. I was a little surprised that more hookers get killed in that game than in Grand Theft Auto.

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I'm playing Dawn of War now. Needed something more quick and explosive.

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They are armor piercing arrows.

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They are sup bro's personal arrows.

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All,

For a total noob at these games, as in I have never played even once, should I pick up CIv 4 or go to an earlier version.

Thanks,

Calda

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All,

For a total noob at these games, as in I have never played even once, should I pick up CIv 4 or go to an earlier version.

Thanks,

Calda

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Go right to 4, there is no story continuity to worry about.

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Pick up the new one. It has smooth multiplayer for one, and that's a very nice option. There is no reason to go to an earlier version on this one, if you could even find it.

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It's all about the choprush.

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I have heard that there is a patch (1.09) out now- time to fire up Civ 4 again!

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You were waiting on a patch to play? Hmm.. one of those guys with video card problems?

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You were waiting on a patch to play? Hmm.. one of those guys with video card problems?

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There were only about, maybe, a billion of us . . .

Yay patch! Movies are still jumpy and I can't play on a world larger than "small" without it freaking out on me after the middle ages, but it still kicks ass. Friend of mine has a new top-of-the-line computer and the movies are jumpy even with his setup . . . bizarre.

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I know the vid card issues are legit, but I've seen some nutty or just ignorant complaints, too. People complaining that they can't play anything bigger than a small map without experiencing lag ... when they have only 256 meg of RAM in their system and onboard video. That was too little to run Civ 2 without hitches, years and years ago. Some people also expect to max out their visual settings in a game and crank the resolution to 1600x1200 and can't believe the game doesn't run smoothly when they do. It's kind of sad when they say, "But it's a new computer!" without realizing that just because it's new doesn't mean it's not a total piece of crap for running games.

Have you tried using a bunch of different drivers, even pretty old ones? Firaxis keeps on harping on the need to have the latest video drivers, but my video drivers on my ATI 9800 Pro are dated April 2004 and they work great. I don't even want to upgrade them since they work so well on everything. If you've tried everything else but that, maybe that would help.

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All,

I am pretty sure if I ever got this game, I would never stop playing.

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You were waiting on a patch to play? Hmm.. one of those guys with video card problems?

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No vid card problems- just the memory leak. The end game becomes incredibly tedious- it takes forever to scroll in and out, move around the map, etc. Even a freshly loaded save game is bad, but if you play it in one sitting it becomes completely unplayable eventually.

I have also been playing more p***r and Battlefield 2 these days [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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You were waiting on a patch to play? Hmm.. one of those guys with video card problems?

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No vid card problems- just the memory leak. The end game becomes incredibly tedious- it takes forever to scroll in and out, move around the map, etc. Even a freshly loaded save game is bad, but if you play it in one sitting it becomes completely unplayable eventually.


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There is a memory leak fix here. Even if you have a high end machine, this fix helps a lot.