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shant 11-14-2005 03:50 AM

77 Turn
 
BB is TAG(18/10/1.5) and CO is 63/8/1.6<3.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (9 max, 7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: I am Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">I raise</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">I bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, CO calls, I call.

Turn: (6.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, CO checks, easy bet right?

cold_cash 11-14-2005 03:54 AM

Re: 77 Turn
 
I think so, yeah.

WillyTrailer 11-14-2005 03:54 AM

Re: 77 Turn
 
I'd bet it.

-WT

private joker 11-14-2005 03:57 AM

Re: 77 Turn
 
Yeah you have to bet. And fold if raised again I think.

meep_42 11-14-2005 04:59 AM

Re: 77 Turn
 
That's the last bet into the pot, right?

-d

uw_madtown 11-14-2005 05:01 AM

Re: 77 Turn
 
[ QUOTE ]
That's the last bet into the pot, right?

-d

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd have to think so. I have a hard time betting here but I think you have to grit your teeth and fire it anyway. I'm checking behind on pretty much any river that isn't precisely the 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

meep_42 11-14-2005 05:04 AM

Re: 77 Turn
 
I'd bet a non-[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] deuce. Probably.

-d

W. Deranged 11-14-2005 05:07 AM

Re: 77 Turn
 
I think that if we like our hand enough to call the flop check-raise, then we should certainly like it enough to bet here.

With that in mind, I'd say that I think calling the flop check-raise is hardly standard and pretty read-dependent. There are plenty of players who will only check-raise top pair and better. I think that against an unknown, particularly with the cold-caller in between, folding to the flop check-raise is probably slightly better than calling.

brettbrettr 11-14-2005 10:57 AM

Re: 77 Turn
 
Yes. I notice EP 10/20 players do this alot, figuring any LP player who bet a checked round flop has nothing. They normally follow-up with a turn bet, but I think this guy saw that you called and is giving it up. Unless of coure he plans on c/r'ing you again....

BigBrother 11-14-2005 11:25 AM

Re: 77 Turn
 
I like it. Bet/fold, check the river.

I agree that flop c/r is with air enough of the time that staying with your 77 is +EV.


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