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freemoney 12-17-2005 02:06 PM

Dealing with losing money
 
How do some of you higher stake players deal with losing money, like alot of it? I have a pretty nice sized bankroll, but I think what holds me back is I am scared to play step 5s oon a regular basis because I dont wanna deal with losing 10 to 20k which will invaribly happen.

How do some of you deal with it, or does it always suck when it happens? I guess its all relative, that a year ago I would of had a breakdown if I lost 1500, now it would be off my mind 10 mins after losing computer screen. Im just looking for some help in how you guys progressed to these levels or deal with losing that much money. Thanks for any help

octaveshift 12-17-2005 02:15 PM

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lol

skipperbob 12-17-2005 02:16 PM

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I lose more $$$$ before 6:00AM than most people do all day long [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

MarkL444 12-17-2005 02:16 PM

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practice losing money till it gets easier

tigerite 12-17-2005 02:20 PM

Re: Dealing with losing money
 
Think of your bankroll in terms of an investment, rather than $$$.. and also in terms of buy-ins. That way you can see that instead of losing the money, you were simply speculating to accumulate, much like in stocks and shares.

skipperbob 12-17-2005 02:45 PM

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Being good at losing $$$ takes years of practice & dedication....And it is important that you lose money at many different activities....Losing $$$ gambling is the "core", of course, but you have to lose $$$ in the stock market, real estate, commodities, lending it to Friends/Relatives and, finally, chasing Puss.

The most highly-prized quality of a good money-loser is that he is able to squander fortunes with a certain "Je ne sais quoi" (or "savoir faire" if you prefer)...But, it's a lot like telling a lie; -it's not really a lie if you believe that it's true--similarly, the ability to lose $$$ with grace depends on the loser having a detachment from money that is rarely found in our consumer-oriented society.
You can't view $$$ as a meduim of exchange that might improve the quality of your life &/or the lives of those that are dependant on you; you must view it as "filty luchre" that must be disposed off in an instant.

One good way to become accustomed to losing $$$$ is to spend a good portion of your most productive years trying to devise a "system" to beat roulette [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

johnnybeef 12-17-2005 02:57 PM

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Well, I realize that money is not the end all in this world. Friends, family, and health are far far superior in terms of importance in this life. Money comes and goes, and those who spend a ton of time worrying about it will live a very shallow life. I dunno, I guess I am desensitized to the value of it.

Newt_Buggs 12-17-2005 03:34 PM

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I am scared to play step 5s oon a regular basis because I dont wanna deal with losing 10 to 20k which will invaribly happen.


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freemoney 12-17-2005 03:38 PM

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what?

freemoney 12-17-2005 03:41 PM

Re: Dealing with losing money
 
that has nothing to do with living in a house as a 20 yr old where its a hassle for people to get 5 dollars together for beer, and you are down 12k that week. I think its what holds me back the most, I was trying to get advice from people who have dealt with this sort of thing.

DrPhysic 12-17-2005 03:56 PM

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Bravo! Bravissimo! Encore!

ROFLMAO!

BTW, nothing keeps you in practice at F'ing off filthy lucre better than having children. Especially grown ones.

Doc

curtains 12-17-2005 03:58 PM

Re: Dealing with losing money
 
freemoney it probably just means you arent ready to play the step 5's yet. Wait until you have at least double or triple your bankroll or something like that. The games aren't going anywhere and then itll be much easier to stomach a huge loss.

freemoney 12-17-2005 04:05 PM

Re: Dealing with losing money
 
What do you think is a good number for your bankroll to start really playing Step 5s, assuming you think you would be a winning player.

Freudian 12-17-2005 04:06 PM

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I think it is healthy to have respect for money. It could be negative if you get scared of moving up when your game is ready. But seeing as you have made your way up the SnG ladder and play at a reasonably high limit I don't think it is a problem for you. Eventually you will feel comfortable enough to play the steps.

microbet 12-17-2005 04:11 PM

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that has nothing to do with living in a house as a 20 yr old where its a hassle for people to get 5 dollars together for beer, and you are down 12k that week. I think its what holds me back the most, I was trying to get advice from people who have dealt with this sort of thing.

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Wow, pretty crazy that you are the one depressed about money in that house.

ilikeaces 12-17-2005 04:15 PM

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What do you think is a good number for your bankroll to start really playing Step 5s, assuming you think you would be a winning player.

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100k

curtains 12-17-2005 04:19 PM

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What do you think is a good number for your bankroll to start really playing Step 5s, assuming you think you would be a winning player.

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Depends who you are....anywhere from 100k-300k. Depends on how much $$ you like risking at once. Of course a higher number for the higher step 5's.

curtains 12-17-2005 04:20 PM

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What do you think is a good number for your bankroll to start really playing Step 5s, assuming you think you would be a winning player.

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100k

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IMO 100k is on the short side for a responsible/professional gambler. Yeah ok, losing 10% of your bankroll is no huge deal when you have 3k and are grinding away at the 33s, but when you lose 10% of it and you have 100k, it really stings. Add this to the fact that the 1k games are much tougher and I feel that it's just risky if you aren't the kind of person who can take losing a large sum of money well.

Once you have like 250-300k, then losing 10-20k should sting quite a bit less.

freemoney 12-17-2005 04:31 PM

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not depressed.

freemoney 12-17-2005 04:32 PM

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alright thanks alot.

HonestIago15 12-17-2005 04:57 PM

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Being good at losing $$$ takes years of practice & dedication....And it is important that you lose money at many different activities....Losing $$$ gambling is the "core", of course, but you have to lose $$$ in the stock market, real estate, commodities, lending it to Friends/Relatives and, finally, chasing Puss.


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HAWHAWHAWHAW

ilikeaces 12-17-2005 05:13 PM

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What do you think is a good number for your bankroll to start really playing Step 5s, assuming you think you would be a winning player.

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100k

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IMO 100k is on the short side for a responsible/professional gambler. Yeah ok, losing 10% of your bankroll is no huge deal when you have 3k and are grinding away at the 33s, but when you lose 10% of it and you have 100k, it really stings. Add this to the fact that the 1k games are much tougher and I feel that it's just risky if you aren't the kind of person who can take losing a large sum of money well.

Once you have like 250-300k, then losing 10-20k should sting quite a bit less.

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Godd point. I was thinking more along the lines of someone who plays step 5 minis and regular step 5s not step 4 highers.

microbet 12-17-2005 05:19 PM

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Good.

I don't know you, but if I had to guess it's not really the money that bugs you. And I've swung a lot more than $12k, so I know what that it is like; for me anyway.

raptor517 12-17-2005 05:57 PM

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like curtains said. it wont hurt one bit running bad when you have a 300k roll to work with on those step 5s. lose 10k a day and you will be like, meh, get em back tomororw, no big. the hurt comes from the money having a direct impact on yer life, or a special meaning. money lost most of its meaning to me a while ago, which isnt a terrible thing for a poker player. just about the only thing you can do for now is increase yer bankroll. holla

12-17-2005 06:29 PM

Re: Dealing with losing money
 
Thats so crazy. I lose 600 dollars in a day and cant sleep for the nite.

eastbay 12-17-2005 06:33 PM

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Good.

I don't know you, but if I had to guess it's not really the money that bugs you. And I've swung a lot more than $12k, so I know what that it is like; for me anyway.

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Really? Playing what games?

eastbay

pergesu 12-17-2005 06:45 PM

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Thats so crazy. I lose 600 dollars in a day and cant sleep for the nite.

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I found that when I stopped caring about losing money, I stopped doing it altogether. Weird.

Scott_Baio 12-18-2005 02:56 AM

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I lose more $$$$ before 6:00AM than most people do all day long [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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thanks, that is my new quote of the day.

raptor517 12-18-2005 03:12 AM

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I lose more $$$$ before 6:00AM than most people do all day long [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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thanks, that is my new quote of the day.

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i go to bed after he wakes up. old people are odd. holla

pergesu 12-18-2005 03:13 AM

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I lose more $$$$ before 6:00AM than most people do all day long [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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thanks, that is my new quote of the day.

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i go to bed after he wakes up. old people are odd. holla

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Yeah when I was living with my dad still I'd come home from the casino at the same time he was heading out to go to work.

skipperbob 12-18-2005 10:31 AM

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Yeah when I was living with my dad still I'd come home from the casino at the same time he was heading out to go to work.

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[img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]Does anybody else see the quintessential beauty of this child-like cry for help? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

12-18-2005 12:59 PM

Re: Dealing with losing money
 
Im your biggest fan freemoney

raptor517 12-18-2005 02:54 PM

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I lose more $$$$ before 6:00AM than most people do all day long [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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thanks, that is my new quote of the day.

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i go to bed after he wakes up. old people are odd. holla

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Yeah when I was living with my dad still I'd come home from the casino at the same time he was heading out to go to work.

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haha when i was like 13 or 14 in the summer i remember my dad getting up for work and i would still be on the computer playing starcraft and what not. ah the good ol days.. holla

Roman 12-18-2005 03:00 PM

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I lose more $$$$ before 6:00AM than most people do all day long [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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thanks, that is my new quote of the day.

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i go to bed after he wakes up. old people are odd. holla

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Yeah when I was living with my dad still I'd come home from the casino at the same time he was heading out to go to work.

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haha when i was like 13 or 14 in the summer i remember my dad getting up for work and i would still be on the computer playing starcraft and what not. ah the good ol days.. holla

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What was ur Starcraft sceenname?

Maulik 12-18-2005 03:50 PM

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I lose more $$$$ before 6:00AM than most people do all day long [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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thanks, that is my new quote of the day.

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i go to bed after he wakes up. old people are odd. holla

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Yeah when I was living with my dad still I'd come home from the casino at the same time he was heading out to go to work.

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haha when i was like 13 or 14 in the summer i remember my dad getting up for work and i would still be on the computer playing starcraft and what not. ah the good ol days.. holla

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What was ur Starcraft sceenname?

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mmmm Starcraft.

THESANTINI

raptor517 12-18-2005 04:47 PM

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I lose more $$$$ before 6:00AM than most people do all day long [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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thanks, that is my new quote of the day.

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i go to bed after he wakes up. old people are odd. holla

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Yeah when I was living with my dad still I'd come home from the casino at the same time he was heading out to go to work.

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haha when i was like 13 or 14 in the summer i remember my dad getting up for work and i would still be on the computer playing starcraft and what not. ah the good ol days.. holla

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What was ur Starcraft sceenname?

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haha Raptor517 im pretty sure. i was ranked pretty good on useast ladder back in the day. my LT toss was unmatched. holla

Snarf 12-18-2005 04:50 PM

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Im your biggest fan freemoney

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Thats one of the funniest things I've seen all day.

Friggin' hilarious dude.

pergesu 12-18-2005 09:59 PM

Re: Dealing with losing money
 
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Yeah when I was living with my dad still I'd come home from the casino at the same time he was heading out to go to work.

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[img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]Does anybody else see the quintessential beauty of this child-like cry for help? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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http://www.javaspot.net/images/depressingfridge.jpg

How's this? My little brother comes over to my place today, opens up the fridge, and says, "Pat Pat Pat...you know you can't live off of Coke, milk, queso, and beer right?"

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raptor517 12-18-2005 10:13 PM

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dude if theres corn flakes and chips in the pantry you my friend are SET. holla

Roman 12-18-2005 10:18 PM

Re: Dealing with losing money
 
starcarft was my stomping ground before poker. I was #2 toss in USA for a while, I used the name rS.Maynard.

A lot of good players made the switch to poker.


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