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ArturiusX 12-18-2005 12:22 AM

I really screwed this up
 
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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Villian is very aggressive, will play hard on any flop he hits, something like a 39/26/3.5 from memory. LAG, but hes smarter.

imported_leader 12-18-2005 12:33 AM

Re: I really screwed this up
 
You're outs seem pretty bad on the turn. How often does he play something other then AA,KK,QQ,JJ,77,AJ,KJ,QJ this way? I think it would have to be a significant amount for you to call the turn.

ArturiusX 12-18-2005 12:36 AM

Re: I really screwed this up
 
I guess I justified a big J.

thesharpie 12-18-2005 12:36 AM

Re: I really screwed this up
 
It doesn't look like the LAG is folding anything you want him to, I'd just peel the flop even though the LAG's check looks suspicious.

ArturiusX 12-18-2005 12:38 AM

Re: I really screwed this up
 
I should also mention that I've been stealing a lot of blinds from him recently, I kind of wanted to show down a good hand.

That was kind of my thinking at the time, I couldn't decide on this turn though, I kept thinking 9:1 is big enough!

RandBriscoe 12-18-2005 02:01 AM

Re: I really screwed this up
 
I call the flop and fold the turn.

JoshuaD 12-18-2005 03:24 AM

Re: I really screwed this up
 
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I call the flop and fold the turn UI.

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RandBriscoe 12-18-2005 09:13 AM

Re: I really screwed this up
 
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I call the flop and fold the turn UI.

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Well, considering the turn didn't improve him... I fold.

POKhER 12-18-2005 10:05 AM

Re: I really screwed this up
 
OP: I call the flop, don't raise.

Note sure what i do after the 3bet, its a pretty aggressive thing and only a few hands in the range give us outs to draw.

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I call the flop and fold the turn.

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Why do you call the flop and fold the turn, why not just fold the flop? you have outs to draw and he's 100% betting the turn after the flop aggression he just showed.

I dont see why you peel if your folding when you dont hit your card. This seems illogical.

Either fold the flop because you're behind and severly fear being dominated. Or call the turn and river to improve as you must think you're going to win when spiking a K/Q surely?

If the answer to that is no, then why call a 3bet in the first place?

Its because of this, that i'm going to the river or im folding there and then on the flop.I wont raise the flop hardly ever.

Roy6 12-18-2005 10:17 AM

Re: I really screwed this up
 
SB's check doesn't make any sense on this board unless he has 77/JJ.
Is it weaktight to fold on the flop?


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