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ZManODS 12-17-2003 12:23 AM

All-in Question
 
I know this had to have been done before but if you are playing NL hold em and a player goes all in blind, what hands would you call with? How is this calculated? Thanks in advance.

Nottom 12-17-2003 12:54 AM

Re: All-in Question
 
Somewhere there is a list of EVs of all hands VS a random hand. If there were no blinds and a guy went all-in blind, then you would call with any hand with an EV > .5 on that list assuming the stakes weren't an issue and you knew you would be heads up.

Basically it should be something along the lines of Ax, Kx, Qxs, Bigger Jx, any pair, any suited connector above 56s, and a few others.

Bozeman 12-17-2003 02:36 AM

Re: All-in Question
 
http://www.jazbo.com/poker/huholdem.html

Also, check out allenciox's table that gives proper odds against some other ranges of hands.

Finally, consider that $EV may differ significantly from chip EV in tournaments, which are the most common scenarios for short stack allins.

Craig

Kurn, son of Mogh 12-17-2003 09:42 AM

Re: All-in Question
 
Aside from the math, the decision depends on size of blinds relative to your chip count. Relative stack size, where you are in relation to the money.

Example. If it's heads-up, the blinds are 1,000/2,000 and you both have 6,000 in chips. he goes all-in blind - you call with any 2 cards.

ZManODS 12-18-2003 01:53 PM

Remark
 
This is not a question about a tournament, its about NL hold em ring games.

daryn 12-18-2003 04:06 PM

Re: Remark
 
this actually happens quite a bit in the NL cash game i play in. we play with .50-1 blinds, and at some point in the night i will start to straddle $2 under the gun.. this gets the ball rolling... by the end of the night, this one guy in particular will start straddling huge amounts.. $10, $20.. and it's not uncommon for him to straddle all in for $50 or so! so in my case, the blind size really doesn't matter, because it's not that much in relation to the blind all in bet..

i usually call if i have better than a random hand. i think one time i called with K9o.. he ended up having K2o and catching a deuce!


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