Re: 200/400 bellagio AQo
 

But Lawrence....

...Famous starting words of Jim Brier posts where he disagreed with someone...

But Lawrence, on this preflop play, the John Feeney AQ test [which is of course renamed the KJ test in Southern California] says that we should fold AQ to an early position raise. Here, we have the sb - we can't get a more early position - not just raising but 3 betting.

Surely, taking the lessons learned from the AQ test, we should be proceeding with some caution. Granted, there may be reasons to 4 bet but those reasons I suggest wouldn't include 'for value'.

Re: 200/400 bellagio AQo
 

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Granted, there may be reasons to 4 bet but those reasons I suggest wouldn't include 'for value'.

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Such as not being able to put me on AA-KK-AK when I 4-bet? Of course, the alternative here is "never 4-bet." I'm not a good enough player to know which is better.

Re: 200/400 bellagio AQo
 

BK, since it looks like this thread is dying, can you post the results to this one? Im still curious as to what hand the SB would play this way.

results
 

The rest of the hand is pretty unninteresting.

The turn brought the Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] sb checked, fish bet, I raised, sb folded, fish called. River brought a blank the fish check called and mhig.

Re: results
 

I have a quick question for you BK. Im having a little trouble understanding the raise when the spade comes on the turn. I know it gives you two pair but what if the fish was in there with a flush draw. I know the raise gives you info on whether or not he does have the flush but what do you do if he three bets you on the turn?
Im not trying to say I understand these limits what so ever but Id like to understand your thinking regarding this. Do you check/call down or do you fold on the river when he leads out after raising the turn? Thanks

Re: results
 

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I have a quick question for you BK. Im having a little trouble understanding the raise when the spade comes on the turn. I know it gives you two pair but what if the fish was in there with a flush draw. I know the raise gives you info on whether or not he does have the flush but what do you do if he three bets you on the turn?

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Then you play poker. And that involves almost always calling down.

Re: results
 

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Then you play poker. And that involves almost always calling down.

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I've been doing it wrong this whole time!