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hachkc 09-12-2005 11:24 PM

NLO8 - Comments on play
 
Just curious what folks think about this hand. No argument, there was some luck (okay a lot) involved here. Would anyone have played it differently, the same, etc?

For some reason bison wouldn't convert the hand.

POKERSTARS GAME #2517074878: OMAHA HI/LO NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2005/09/06 - 23:57:10 (ET)
Table 'Lyra' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: George Geo ($79.50 in chips)
Seat 2: homes ($831.65 in chips)
Seat 3: skysurfer3 ($117.50 in chips)
Seat 4: soora ($419.65 in chips)
Seat 5: DaBigBoy ($382 in chips)
Seat 6: AbdulCohen ($2221.95 in chips)
Seat 7: AlittleMount ($173.60 in chips)
Seat 8: hachkc ($366 in chips)
Seat 9: cardluvr ($56.45 in chips)
cardluvr: posts small blind $2
George Geo: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hachkc [2s 4c 7d 3h]
homes: calls $4
skysurfer3: folds
soora: calls $4
DaBigBoy: folds
AbdulCohen: calls $4
AlittleMount: folds
hachkc: calls $4
cardluvr: calls $2
George Geo: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qs 4d 7h]
cardluvr: checks
George Geo: checks
homes: bets $32
soora: folds
AbdulCohen: folds
hachkc: calls $32
cardluvr: folds
George Geo: calls $32
*** TURN *** [Qs 4d 7h] [As]
George Geo: checks
homes: bets $104
hachkc: calls $104
George Geo: calls $43.50 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Qs 4d 7h As] [4s]
homes: checks
hachkc: bets $104
homes: calls $104
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hachkc: shows [2s 4c 7d 3h] (HI: a full house, Fours full of Sevens; LO: 7,4,3,2,A)
homes: mucks hand
hachkc collected $164.50 from side pot
hachkc collected $164.50 from side pot
George Geo: mucks hand
hachkc collected $123.75 from main pot
hachkc collected $123.75 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $579.50 Main pot $247.50. Side pot $329. | Rake $3
Board [Qs 4d 7h As 4s]
Seat 1: George Geo (big blind) mucked [7s Td Qc Ac]
Seat 2: homes mucked [Ah 6h Qh 5s]
Seat 3: skysurfer3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: soora folded on the Flop
Seat 5: DaBigBoy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: AbdulCohen folded on the Flop
Seat 7: AlittleMount folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: hachkc (button) showed [2s 4c 7d 3h] and won ($576.50) with HI: a full house, Fours full of Sevens; LO: 7,4,3,2,A
Seat 9: cardluvr (small blind) folded on the Flop

09-13-2005 08:54 AM

Re: NLO8 - Comments on play
 
Calling with bottom 2 pairs on the flop is pretty risky, you almost have to assume you are going against top set, top 2, and/or the nut low. Of course, by the turn you are freerolling with the nut low. Definitely lucky, but I've pulled off stuff like that too. Probably a -EV play. Anyone else agree?

Drizztdj 09-13-2005 01:14 PM

Re: NLO8 - Comments on play
 
You definitely hit your gin card on the turn (and river), but how would you have continued if the ace didn't fall?

Playing bottom two in Omaha is a sure way to go broke.

GooperMC 09-13-2005 01:14 PM

Re: NLO8 - Comments on play
 
I would have folded or raised the flop depending on the opponent.

Once the A hits on the turn the hands plays itself.

hachkc 09-13-2005 01:30 PM

Re: NLO8 - Comments on play
 
Here was my thought process during the hand. I admit this wasn't the best played of hands but I didn't sense any real strength from either of the other players and my read on the BB was right on in hindsight.

1. Preflop - Drawing to nut low with 5 other limpers on the button, I'll pay 1 bet and see if an A hits. If not, see ya.

2. Flop - Probably worst/riskiest played part of the hand. I read the $32 bet as a semi bluff with either a strong hi or low or weak shots at both. Three of the limpers dropped and I figured the SB would fold (he didn't). Not sure on SB's holdings.

3. Turn - Hit the nut low, an A. Hoping the A counterfeited any low the others were going after. Pretty much committed to this hand now. SB is all-in and I don't have clue what they are playing. Read on BB hasn't really changed

4. River - Scary miracle card, does my boat hold up or not? Probably should have either gone All-In or checked here after the BB checked, I made a weak bet 1/4 - 1/3 pot bet because I was still unsure of what everyone held.

Morale of the story, hand probably should have been folded after the flop but it wasn't and I got lucky. Kind of an ugly hand all the way around.

hachkc 09-13-2005 01:33 PM

Re: NLO8 - Comments on play
 
Without the A, I'm outta there unless a 4 or 7 hit. Assuming the BB made the same bet, only an A, 4 or 7 would have kept me around.


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