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TheNoodleMan 10-27-2005 09:08 PM

Stud8, anyone get away any cheaper than this?
 
Seems like I could have saved a bet on 5th.
7 Card Stud High-Low ($5/$10), Ante $0.50, Bring-In $2 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.70 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls

4th Street - (4.70 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___raises
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___folds

5th Street - (6.85 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___calls

6th Street - (10.85 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

River - (12.85 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___bets
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

Total pot: (14.85 BB)

Results:
Total pot $148.50 | Rake $3

Seat 1: [5s 5d 5h 6d 2c 6c Kc] (HI: a full house, Fives full of Sixes)

Hero: [As 2d 2h Ac Qd Kd 3c]

bigredlemon 10-27-2005 09:15 PM

Re: Stud8, anyone get away any cheaper than this?
 
I like checking 5th. If he bricks on 6th, bet out. If not, check/call it down.

DeadMoneyOC 10-27-2005 09:21 PM

Re: Stud8, anyone get away any cheaper than this?
 
Sometimes I play 3rd, sometimes I dont. I play fourth the same, but crap my pants when he caps it. I would check-call down from 5th on.

Jeffage 10-27-2005 09:33 PM

Re: Stud8, anyone get away any cheaper than this?
 
Betting 5th doesn't make sense. A bet will go in anyway and it looks like you're chopping and he might have redraw to scoop (in which case you get raised). I'm checking here. I learned that the expensive way.

Jeff

mscags 10-27-2005 09:41 PM

Re: Stud8, anyone get away any cheaper than this?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I like checking 5th. If he bricks on 6th, bet out. If not, check/call it down.

[/ QUOTE ]

You will be raised 99.99999% of the time on fifth

Notorious G.O.B. 10-27-2005 09:48 PM

Re: Stud8, anyone get away any cheaper than this?
 
I wouldn't be so concerned that he caps it, it appears he's just jamming against the other low. I agree with your assessment from 5th on, though.

Jeffage 10-27-2005 09:48 PM

Re: Stud8, anyone get away any cheaper than this?
 
[ QUOTE ]
You will be raised 99.99999% of the time on fifth

[/ QUOTE ]

Have you heard that 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

Jeff

mscags 10-27-2005 10:17 PM

Re: Stud8, anyone get away any cheaper than this?
 
Did you make that one up lol?

DeadMoneyOC 10-27-2005 10:38 PM

Re: Stud8, anyone get away any cheaper than this?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I wouldn't be so concerned that he caps it, it appears he's just jamming against the other low.

[/ QUOTE ]

Keep in mind our board shows A2 so our opponent has to be concerned that we may have a better low draw. This is of course based partly on table image, and our read of the villian. Best case scenerio we are HU with a hand like A256 and we are basically 50-50 in the pot. Worst case scenerio we are up against 666 or in this case 555 and are almost a 4-1 dog. This is pretty player dependent, but against players who arent going donkey crazy I would imagine this is the likely scenerio(either coin flip or big dog). I would also imagine that if our opponent bricked on 5th and we bet out and were raised that higher level stud8 players would be able to find a fold against certain opponents. I am calling down everytime...but I also dont think I am that good.

TheNoodleMan 10-27-2005 11:10 PM

Re: Stud8, anyone get away any cheaper than this?
 
[ QUOTE ]
This is pretty player dependent, but against players who arent going donkey crazy...

[/ QUOTE ]
I have to admit that I had this player pegged as a donk. I wanted to punish them if they had paired and were still drawing to a low. Unfortunate in this situtaion is the fact that donks are rolled up just as often as the rest of us.
Thanks to everyone who responded.


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