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lane mcbride 11-09-2005 04:12 PM

I hated this hand. please help me out
 
only read on villain is that a bet on fifth almost certainly means he has a made low

comments on all streets. I hated this hand and I'm curious to see how everyone else would have played it since I think I played it very poorly
Stage #222166405: Seven Card Hi/Lo Normal $2/$4 - 2005-11-09 14:48:54 (ET)
Seat 1 - PLAYER 1 ($16.23 in chips)
Seat 2 - PLAYER 2 ($33.51 in chips)
Seat 3 - PLAYER 3 ($48.38 in chips)
Seat 4 - PLAYER 4 ($58.12 in chips)
Seat 5 - HERO ($98.86 in chips)
Seat 6 - PLAYER 6 ($95.92 in chips)
Seat 7 - VILLAIN ($43.88 in chips)
PLAYER 1 - Ante $0.25
PLAYER 2 - Ante $0.25
PLAYER 3 - Ante $0.25
PLAYER 4 - Ante $0.25
HERO - Ante $0.25
PLAYER 6 - Ante $0.25
VILLAIN - Ante $0.25
*** 3rd STREET ***
PLAYER 1 - Pocket [J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
PLAYER 2 - Pocket [J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
PLAYER 3 - Pocket [10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
PLAYER 4 - Pocket [9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
HERO - Pocket [5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
PLAYER 6 - Pocket [10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
VILLAIN - Pocket [7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
HERO - Bring-In $1
PLAYER 6 - Folds
VILLAIN - Calls $1
PLAYER 1 - Calls $1
PLAYER 2 - Calls $1
PLAYER 3 - Folds
PLAYER 4 - Folds
*** 4TH STREET ***
PLAYER 1 - Pocket [J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
PLAYER 2 - Pocket [J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
HERO - Pocket [5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
VILLAIN - Pocket [7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
VILLAIN - Bets $2
PLAYER 1 - Folds
PLAYER 2 - Folds
HERO - Calls $2
*** 5TH STREET ***
HERO - Pocket [5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
VILLAIN - Pocket [7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
VILLAIN - Bets $4
HERO - Raises $8 to $8
VILLAIN - Calls $4
*** 6TH STREET ***
HERO - Pocket [5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
VILLAIN - Pocket [7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
HERO - Checks
VILLAIN - Bets $4
HERO - Calls $4
*** RIVER ***
HERO - Pocket [5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
VILLAIN - Pocket [7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
HERO - Checks
VILLAIN - Bets $4
HERO - Calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
VILLAIN - Shows [5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] (Two Pairs, sevens and fives)
HERO - Mucks
VILLAIN Collects $39.75 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($41.75) | Rake ($2)
Seat 1: PLAYER 1 Folded on the 4TH STREET
Seat 2: PLAYER 2 Folded on the 4TH STREET
Seat 3: PLAYER 3 Folded on the 3rd STREET
Seat 4: PLAYER 4 Folded on the 3rd STREET
Seat 5: HERO HI: [Mucked] [5d 4d 3d Kh 6d 6h Qc]
Seat 6: PLAYER 6 Folded on the 3rd STREET
Seat 7: VILLAIN won Total ($39.75) HI:($19.88) with Two Pairs, sevens and fives [5s 2h 7h Ah 8c 5h 7s - B:7s,B:7h,P:5s,B:5h,B:Ah] LO:($19.87) [B:Ah,P:2h,P:5s,B:7h,B:8c]

Jeffage 11-09-2005 04:20 PM

Re: I hated this hand. please help me out
 
If you want responses, use the converter to make your post readable. It's available in the FAQ.

Jeff

lane mcbride 11-09-2005 04:34 PM

Re: I hated this hand. please help me out
 
I didn't see one for absolute poker... is there one?

Jeffage 11-09-2005 04:36 PM

Re: I hated this hand. please help me out
 
I don't know, I assumed it worked for all of them. But if it doesn't, it might be better for you to write it out using the suits, etc., rather than just pasting it. I know this takes more time, but people who respond will take the time to help you also. This is pretty tough to read (for me at least).

Jeff

lane mcbride 11-09-2005 04:44 PM

Re: I hated this hand. please help me out
 
k... I wrote it out using the suits... hopefully that will help. thanks in advance
-Lane

fnord_too 11-09-2005 04:55 PM

Re: I hated this hand. please help me out
 
I fold fourth. It sucks since your hand was so pretty, but there is no reason to continue here.

If I continue on fourth, I only call fifth. I don't think you have an equity edge here, though you may. If you do, I think jamming is fine, but I don't have a good intuition on equity. Obvioulsy you are seeing theriver here.

7th, meh. Not sure there getting ~4:1 on your call (assuming villain has a low). OTOH, if villain has no low, you are almost certainly getting scooped here.

Jeffage 11-09-2005 08:58 PM

Re: I hated this hand. please help me out
 
I fold 4th...you caught bad, he caught good and your str8 cards are deadish.

Jeff

lane mcbride 11-10-2005 11:37 AM

Re: I hated this hand. please help me out
 
okay... since I made the mistake of calling fourth, what are your thoughts on 5th 6th and 7th?

Jeffage 11-10-2005 11:44 AM

Re: I hated this hand. please help me out
 
I like 5th and 6th. On the river, I doubt I call b/c I think you are losing both ways much of the time, but if you think he has a low only it's close. If he doesn't have a low, you get scooped. And he could easily have a low and have hit a bigger pair.

Disclaimer: I'm not a Stud8 expert.

Jeff


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