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12-23-2005 07:37 PM

One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
Now, I've always known that Party Poker is rigged, because I've been playing occasionally over the past year and a half. Runner runner cards, miracle rivers etc. are so commonplace. Any two hands are literally almost 50/50. Take this one in the $150+12 earlier.
I raise 4bb utg (only 2nd time in game) with JJ. One guy MP calls w KJo (as if that's not bad enough). Flop comes 235. I bet 150, he minimun raises, I reraise to 600, he calls. River comes Q, I go all in for my last 400, he calls, and the river is the K. Tell me the motivation for this play here? Either he's a bot and knows something I don't, is extremely dumb and hit his 1/15 shot or Party Poker is rigged to produce action hands. I'd go for the latter.

Rooger 12-23-2005 07:39 PM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
nh

woodguy 12-23-2005 07:40 PM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
http://home.no.net/holodoc/ordinary1.jpg

ansky451 12-23-2005 07:41 PM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
YSSCKY

12-23-2005 07:43 PM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
Thanks for the intelligent responses, deadbeats. I'll try elsewhere.

Rooger 12-23-2005 07:46 PM

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Thanks for the intelligent responses, deadbeats. I'll try elsewhere.

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You can start here:
http://www.billrini.com/index.php/20...oker-is-rigged

ansky451 12-23-2005 07:47 PM

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Thanks for the intelligent responses, deadbeats. I'll try elsewhere.

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You really posted a wonderful proof of PPs riggedness yourself. I like the mathematical explanation and large sample size. Oh wait...

woodguy 12-23-2005 07:47 PM

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Thanks for the intelligent responses, deadbeats.

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Thanks for the intelligent post.

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I'll try elsewhere.

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Try here.

Regards,
Woodguy

12-23-2005 08:05 PM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
Ahhhhh reminds me of my previous party experience. Back to back hands to start the tournament i get AA. And BOTH times I flop a set, and BOTH times I lose. Once to quad 3's...I'll vouch for you here mokers, somethin's up with this site.

ansky451 12-23-2005 08:07 PM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
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Ahhhhh reminds me of my previous party experience. Back to back hands to start the tournament i get AA. And BOTH times I flop a set, and BOTH times I lose. Once to quad 3's...I'll vouch for you here mokers, somethin's up with this site.

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wow.

scott8 12-23-2005 08:15 PM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
Dear Party is Rigged Dude,

Last week I was 2nd in chips in one of the Supers with 22 left.

I get moved to the table with the chip leader, yep the only guy who can bust me, but wait I get dealt KK on my first hand at the new table.

We get all-in preflop with some action that went raise, raise, and raise. Turns out he has AA and I am gone. Rigged.

I thought, I will never play at Party again.

Then I remembered that I have pulled more than 250k from that site in the last 15 months.

Somehow I struggle on.


Trying to help,

Caldarooni

winky51 12-23-2005 08:16 PM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
Naw it aint rigged because I'm winning of all people [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Sam T. 12-23-2005 08:21 PM

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Naw it must be rigged because I'm winning of all people [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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FYP. (At least for me. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

Seriously, though, how often can a 15:1 shot hit? It can't be more than...um...

Schwartzy61 12-24-2005 03:27 AM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
The WSOP is rigged too.

What are the chances Farha calling Hudsons raise with AT and them both flopping full houses?

How about Harman getting knocked out of the tournament with Queens full when the other guy hit the miracle straight flush...

That's just ridiculous, that stuff should never happen...

12-24-2005 03:36 AM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
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Thanks for the intelligent responses, deadbeats. I'll try elsewhere.

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If you want intelligent answers, ask an intelligent question. I will explain.

The guy was simply a moron. There's nothing about the hand that suggests Party is rigged. It's not an "action hand" at all. To make it an action hand, you would give the guy TT or QQ. Or you would give him his king on the flop. Something to create action. The guy had a nothing hand, and tried a failed bluff on you, figuring you for scared money and missing the flop with your likely AKo, and rivered his one live overcard on the river to bail him out.

UATrewqaz 12-24-2005 03:53 AM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
He's a moron when it comes to poker.

You're a bigger moron for believing what you actually do.

BruinEric 12-24-2005 06:08 AM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
You _DO_ realize that those times your opponent DOESN'T hit his 1/15 shot that you don't see his hand -- he mucks it. Right?

Bad plays pay your way in poker if you can not go on tilt.

There have been a few independent (ie by people like you and me) statistical reviews of Party flops and boards and they all meet normal distribution.

12-24-2005 06:27 AM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
It's amazing how ppl think 1/15 means NEVER, when really, it means there is a chance you'll see it that hand. Cards dont run by the odds, the odds are what we use to see is it worth a call. He obviously didnt know his odds, and therefore made an incorrect call. But that 1 time showed up for him luckily, but the next 14 times he wont be so lucky (but the cards dont follow odds, so dont go all in [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

skiier04 12-24-2005 09:39 AM

Re: One for the \"Party Poker is rigged\" theorists
 
We already have a pretty accurate measure of your intelligence.

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Now, I've always known that Party Poker is rigged

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Take this one in the $150+12 earlier.

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