Breaking Vegas: Roulette System
 

Anyone watching the newest Breaking Vegas, about a team using a roulette system? I missed the first part, what is the actual system they are using?

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nm, looks like they are just finding unbalanced wheels to bet on.

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nm, looks like they are just finding unbalanced wheels to bet on.

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How long are you going to have to track a wheel before you are comfortable that you are getting enough to beat it?

Are they going to find an unbalanced wheel very often? This is going to be really, really time intensive.

This sounds very suspicious on the face of it. Is there more information here that I am missing?

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They said they needed 30,000 results on a single wheel is be completely confident, which must take a hell of a long time. Seems like it worked for them when they found a wheel that was unbalanced enough.

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Well, I would assume the average dealer gets about 30 spins/hr on a normal low stakes low action roulette wheel. 1000 hours would be needed at that rate to get the results that you are looking for.

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Modern wheels very rarely have a bias they do however get tilted occasionally which only makes the drop off point predictable. Also the casinos move the wheels round, so your unbalanced/biased wheel is unlikely to be in the same place all the time. This can be a problem unless you can find a mark or something on the wheel itself. The casinos themselves (larger ones) monitor the results of spins on individual wheels and have software which checks for randomness, if the wheel comes out non random they will overhaul it. To effectivly find biased wheel you would also need a team of wheel observers on shifts and once again if you get spotted the casino's will take steps to fix the wheel.
Having said that I once had a friend who ran a small semi- legal casion where the wheel was so badly tilted it looked like a sinking ship, you could actually predict the drop off point by eye. He fixed it after I commented on it though [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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They said they needed 30,000 results on a single wheel is be completely confident

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If a bias takes that long to confirm it is much too weak to be exploitable against the 5.26% house edge.

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If a bias takes that long to confirm it is much too weak to be exploitable against the 5.26% house edge.

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They were in Europe with only one "0", so it was closer to 2.5%. They said that with their system they went from -2.5% to +6%.

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the head guy is now Carlos Mortensen's poker coach or something. Seems like a real smart guy.

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30 spins/hour in a low limit game? The speed goes up the higher the limit, not the other way around. Lower limit, more chipaction=longer per spin



Tony