Re: Orbflux\'s final reply.
 

Because you beat him out of a pot?

Retarded/bush.

Re: Orbflux\'s final reply.
 

the side you don't know: he discussed it for 25 minutes to no avail. the aggressive douchebagness of joe warranted the ban, as several others concured. another important point this post ignores: the reverse implieds orb has against you if he does hit the draw. does this supersede the value you get by him just calling? i think so.

Re: Orbflux\'s final reply.
 

Well, I got called a "stupid douchebag" tonight too, so as far as I'm concerned everyone can kiss my ass.

Also, if people can get banned for being aggressive at 2+2 tables, those tables are going to be short lived.

Other comments...
 

I rarely play a hand like this. I'm willing to say, this may be the first time I limp-capped preflop then called-3-bet a flop in my poker career. He also said, "I was the favorite" when we first started to chat about the hand which we all know at best he's a 2:1 dog.

What you all have to consider is the dynamics of the table. Short handed w/aggressive players and the only live one in the big blind. Given this description of the table/players there is only one line to take, the one I took.

Peace,
Joe Tall

Re: Orbflux\'s final reply.
 

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another important point this post ignores: the reverse implieds orb has against you if he does hit the draw.

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Orb is not folding to raise on the flop. If Joe knew his hand, and knew he would raise the fishy player's bet, he would probably play it the same way. FTOP. I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

NT

Re: Orbflux\'s final reply.
 

another important point this post ignores: the reverse implieds orb has against you if he does hit the draw. does this supersede the value you get by him just calling? i think so.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. Say Orb calls the flop and think if the draw hits the turn, and I have Orb on a likely AQ and the live one bets (as the live one likely would and Orb being of sound mind (we hope) knows this) how much does he bare to make now? Can you explain your resoning further?

Welcome to the forum,
Joe Tall

Re: Orbflux\'s final reply.
 

I have to ask, who is Orbflux of HydraIRC-chat?

One more thing before I hit the sack...
 

Orb also said, since I capped preflop, he "put me on a huge hand". Now what do you think of his flop play w/the heart draw?

Peace,
Joe Tall

Re: One more thing before I hit the sack...
 

I could see him raising just so you can 3-bet, getting more money in the pot from the BB and also assuring him of a raise (or two) if his draw hits, because your 3-bet guarantees you are going to showdown with your hand, and not passively....

However, if he just said to himself "Joe has a huge hand, but I have a flush draw, I'll raise"...then he played it very poorly...

Re: Orbflux\'s final reply.
 

Clearly, the word is douchebaggery.

-Michael