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climber 12-01-2005 01:53 AM

Why can\'t I fold...i know exactly what he has...!
 
BB is 32/22/4 (prob one of you guys)
UTG is 25/2/0 over only 50 hands
CO is 82/10/1


Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (14.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

MrWookie47 12-01-2005 02:07 AM

Re: Why can\'t I fold...i know exactly what he has...!
 
I'd seriously consider folding preflop, especially in a 1/3 blind structure.

jba 12-01-2005 02:18 AM

Re: Why can\'t I fold...i know exactly what he has...!
 
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I'd seriously consider folding preflop, especially in a 1/3 blind structure.

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I would have folded against that raiser here.

what was the flop plan? did you consider leading?

12-01-2005 02:29 AM

Re: Why can\'t I fold...i know exactly what he has...!
 
I wouldn't fold PF here because of the small sample size on UTG. But I would play it very cautiously. He may have been getting nothing but trash for 50 hands, and you're missing out by folding.

I'd let the maniac lead and then bet-call the river. Or maybe check-raise if you're sure he'd bet it. After UTG folds you can feel a little better.

12-01-2005 02:31 AM

Re: Why can\'t I fold...i know exactly what he has...!
 
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BB is 32/22/4 (prob one of you guys)

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Not me yet, but I'm working on it. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

kidcolin 12-01-2005 02:38 AM

Re: Why can\'t I fold...i know exactly what he has...!
 
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I'd seriously consider folding preflop, especially in a 1/3 blind structure.

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f*ck stats. Play poker.

yellowjack 12-01-2005 02:40 AM

Re: Why can\'t I fold...i know exactly what he has...!
 
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I'd seriously consider folding preflop, especially in a 1/3 blind structure.

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f*ck stats. Play poker.

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lol, idiot

Edit: It's like you're saying "i don't care that he only raises once every 10 orbits, i have ACE-JACK!"

12-01-2005 02:58 AM

Re: Why can\'t I fold...i know exactly what he has...!
 
32/22/4 is NOT one of us guys.

Preflop coldcall: very bad. If you don't feel comfortable reraising it (and against a UTG raise from a guy who has raised exactly once in 50 hands, I wouldn't), you should toss it.

Flop: WTF?? This is where you should be getting bets in, if you think your hand is worth anything. Yeah, it's sexy to go for the big bets with your top pair, but you have no idea where you stand, especially with a tight PFR.

kidcolin 12-01-2005 02:59 AM

Re: Why can\'t I fold...i know exactly what he has...!
 
"roflol"

Maybe it's like I'm saying he's got 50 hands on him and no other reads, so don't cream your jeans about the stats. 10 just means 10%, not the top 10%. You'll find lots of guys with low PFR stats making funny raises. I can dig up some hands if you want.

edit: the idiot remark was classy, btw

Aaron W. 12-01-2005 03:17 AM

Re: Why can\'t I fold...i know exactly what he has...!
 
If you check-raise the turn, there's no way you should be calling it down when he 3-bets you.


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