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Dr_Jeckyl_00 12-05-2005 02:28 PM

$33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
 
Everyone plays AA-QQ differently, but I think that most just raise me w/ those hands, not move in... so I don't feel as if that is what I am up against, I suspect a mid pair or AQ, AK...

Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: baldhusker (1249)
Seat 3: Dr_Jeckyl_00 (725)
Seat 4: Terviseks (481)
Seat 5: acarperpu (555)
Seat 6: MyPairBigger (1910)
Seat 7: badbahlz (870)
Seat 8: kindofadrag (600)
Seat 9: theswamp1225 (960)
Seat 10: ghouahspaeee (650)
badbahlz posts small blind (25)
kindofadrag posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dr_Jeckyl_00 [ Jc, Jh ]
theswamp1225 folds.
ghouahspaeee folds.
baldhusker folds.
Dr_Jeckyl_00 raises (150) to 150
Terviseks folds.
acarperpu folds.
MyPairBigger folds.
badbahlz raises (845) to 870
badbahlz is all-In.
kindofadrag folds.
HERO?

12-05-2005 02:31 PM

Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
 
call! Folding is terrible.

microbet 12-05-2005 02:34 PM

Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
 
Before looking at your stack it was a call. After looking at your stack...CALL!

You're right, most likely big ace or middle pair. I might have QQ+ there, but not most players.

Melchiades 12-05-2005 02:35 PM

Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
 
It's a call. But would not be too surprised to see AA-QQ. You raised 20% of your stack, villain knows you are gonna call his push.

citanul 12-05-2005 02:37 PM

Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
 
[ QUOTE ]
It's a call. But would not be too surprised to see AA-QQ. You raised 20% of your stack, villain knows you are gonna call his push.

[/ QUOTE ]

a) call
b) the assumption that a player who raises 20% of his stack will call off the rest is wrong
c) the assumption that opponents think that you will call off the rest after putting in 20% is wrong
d) it's not like he put in 33% of his stack!

pineapple888 12-05-2005 02:48 PM

Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
 
Well, there's no reason for villain to raise anything less than his whole stack here, so I'm not sure how much you can tell by that.

Given your read, it's a call. I'd fold this against a tight player, though. You're crushed by the range [AA-QQ, AK] for example.

gisb0rne 12-05-2005 04:04 PM

Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
 
Call.

Dr_Jeckyl_00 12-05-2005 04:15 PM

Results: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
 
I called and villain had AK, and hit a King. No big deal, but I wanted to confirm that my call was correct.

What is the lowest hand you call with? My guess is JJ?

Hornacek 12-05-2005 04:20 PM

Re: Results: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
 
sometimes TT but this is very read dependent.

vinyard 12-05-2005 04:45 PM

Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
 
[ QUOTE ]
Well, there's no reason for villain to raise anything less than his whole stack here, so I'm not sure how much you can tell by that.

[/ QUOTE ] I would say that signicant percentage of $22 and $33 players will not push their AA and KK here. There are a few that smooth call but I think the majority raise to somwhere between 300 and 400 chips to get more chips in the pot, check the flop if called (Villain's in the SB) and come over the top of any bet. I am not saying that is how they should play but that is certainly how they do play.


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