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brazilio 08-26-2005 09:14 PM

A good example of value bettting your draw
 
They're all fish or LAPs.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, MP1 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.

<font color="blue">A good flop for me, I flopped a gutshot straight draw. BB was too aggressive, so I expected him to bet so I could checkraise, getting 8:1 on a 10:1 draw this is a good checkraise for draw value. Once the BB 3-bets I was scared I might lose out a fish caller, but they both called two on the flop as well, so I cap for value and a free card, since I'm acting ahead of the BB.</font>

Turn: (10.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.
<font color="blue">
turn checkraise is good, I'm still on a 10:1 draw and the pot is now a healthy size, easily giving me pot odds to bet my draw. This is where a lot of people just check/call their flush/oesd draws because they say they don't have odds. I think most people just don't understand much probability theory and accept what those older posters says as gospel, value raising your draws is crucial to crushing those lower limit games.
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River: (18.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, MP1 folds.

<font color="blue"> My river bluff checkraise is on a scary board for any overpair, I give myself a 100% chance of folding the opponents in this hand.</font>

Final Pot: 21.50 BB

DMBFan23 08-26-2005 09:19 PM

Re: A good example of value bettting your draw
 
your flop play is [censored].

you're getting 3-1 immediately on the raise, and you're 5-1 to make your hand *by the river* (just like you're 1.9 to 1 to make a flush draw by the river). and one reason that the flush draw raises are so money is because you KNOW you'll be seeing the river. no value in this raise at all. and you still might not be able to call a turn bet. this pot is really small, just call closing the action profitably.

EDIT: ignore everything I said, it's obvious now that you're joking. I don't know why you posted this. Thanks.

EDIT again: I'd just like to point out that I edited it before anyone busted me on this. and I had the testicular fortitude to leave my post up.

nate_king1 08-26-2005 10:07 PM

Re: A good example of value bettting your draw
 
This is some sick XXXX. Nice work. Hoped you showed to make them tilty.

SmileyEH 08-26-2005 10:09 PM

Re: A good example of value bettting your draw
 
Completely standard, nh.

-SmileyEH

Catt 08-26-2005 10:36 PM

Re: A good example of value bettting your draw
 
Is this parody directed at any particular recent hand post? Must've missed it.

Also, for DMBFan:

[ QUOTE ]
. . . and I had the testicular fortitude to leave my post up.

[/ QUOTE ]

Testicular fortitude? Sounds like something you might wanna consider a specialist for.

brazilio 08-26-2005 10:38 PM

Re: A good example of value bettting your draw
 
You're a badass, DMBFan

Justin A 08-26-2005 10:38 PM

Re: A good example of value bettting your draw
 
This is unfunny.


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