Call this river with 88?
 

No reads on anyone.

I'd like to get a concensus on what everyone would do on the river. If you don't like the turn call let me know too.

Cryptologic 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Villain calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG calls, Villain calls.

Flop: (9.00 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, UTG folds, Villain calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villain bets</font>, Hero???

Re: Call this river with 88?
 

Fold the turn. Since you didn't, call the river and hope for a semibluff.

Re: Call this river with 88?
 

I fold the turn.

Re: Call this river with 88?
 

yeah i need a read to not fold that turn.

Re: Call this river with 88?
 

i guess it depends on what you thought he had on the flop. anyone check behind on that turn and call the river?

Re: Call this river with 88?
 

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i guess it depends on what you thought he had on the flop. anyone check behind on that turn and call the river?

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explain why you would consider not betting the turn on such a board after the flop action.

Re: Call this river with 88?
 

I think the turn is the decision point. If I'm calling the turn, I'm calling a non-heart river.

I don't know the cryptos at all...is Villain likely sophisticated enough to check-raise a semibluff or even a stone bluff? If I'm playing .50/1 at Party I probably fold here.

But if Villain is known to be tricky I call down.

Re: Call this river with 88?
 

Hero has only played 10 hands at this table and villain is unknown previously. This is the only hand Villain has played so far.

Re: Call this river with 88?
 

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i guess it depends on what you thought he had on the flop. anyone check behind on that turn and call the river?

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I really don't like giving a free card to any 9, T, J, Q, K, A, or [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] out there.

Re: Call this river with 88?
 

Yeah the river is an auto call. Calling the turn check/raise and folding the river UI is terrible poker. Calling the turn check/raise and river bet is questionable poker but nowhere near as bad as if you fold on this river card.

I would fold to the turn check/raise.

Brad