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caretaker1 11-15-2005 09:10 AM

$22: Abandoning AKo at 10/15 in early position
 
After checking Pokertracker recently I noticed that AKo was minimally profitable at this level. It seems like you either win a little when either the A or K hits or when it misses on the flop. Otherwise your continuation bet gets raised and you have to throw up the hand when you miss and are sometimes behind when the A or K does hit (screwball two pairs, sets, etc.). Out of position it is especially a problem as when you whiff and the late position player calls. A turn check will virtually always bring about a bet from the other player. Couple all this with minimal antes to win initially. Yes I'm rambling, but what others thoughts and experiences are about this idea.

HesseJam 11-15-2005 09:15 AM

Re: $22: Abandoning AKo at 10/15 in early position
 
Exactly how minimally profitable has it been for you in BB per hand?

caretaker1 11-15-2005 09:19 AM

Re: $22: Abandoning AKo at 10/15 in early position
 
.19

Two caveats:
Only 97 instances at that level (I realize way too few)
This is unpartitioned (across all positions)

HesseJam 11-15-2005 09:34 AM

Re: $22: Abandoning AKo at 10/15 in early position
 
How much do you raise in EP?

caretaker1 11-15-2005 09:53 AM

Re: $22: Abandoning AKo at 10/15 in early position
 
Almost always.

splashpot 11-15-2005 09:55 AM

Re: $22: Abandoning AKo at 10/15 in early position
 
I'm pretty sure he means "what amount do you raise in EP?"

splashpot 11-15-2005 09:57 AM

Re: $22: Abandoning AKo at 10/15 in early position
 
[ QUOTE ]
.19

Two caveats:
Only 97 instances at that level (I realize way too few)
This is unpartitioned (across all positions)

[/ QUOTE ]
You can filter it to show only hands in late position.

caretaker1 11-15-2005 10:10 AM

Re: $22: Abandoning AKo at 10/15 in early position
 
Misread it. 65-80.

11-15-2005 10:13 AM

Re: $22: Abandoning AKo at 10/15 in early position
 
I think a lot here depends on which site you play at, i.e. how many starting chips you have, 800 or 1500. I don't have experience with 800 chips, but with 1500 chips I tend to limp in EP and bring it in for a raise when I get closer to the button. I've got no real stats as yet however to see if I'm winning or losing with this particular hand, so take my advice with a pinch of salt.

caretaker1 11-15-2005 10:18 AM

Re: $22: Abandoning AKo at 10/15 in early position
 
TY. I didn't realize that. Just checked:
First 4: +.12
First 3: -.11


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