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partygirluk 02-15-2005 04:20 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
why is all his name capitalised bar 1 letter?

illunious 02-15-2005 04:22 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
That's how they did it on the SSHE cover, I liked it.

VBM 02-15-2005 06:28 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
FWIW, depending on my mood on one day or the next, your cover and the 3rd of TraceOne's covers would be my favorite...they're both really attractive.

JoeC 02-15-2005 06:47 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
Is WakkoWarner a 2+2er? I'm assuming not since all that guy does is bitch at fish all day. Do you know him from somewhere else or just the tables?

BTW great cover... best one yet in my opinion.

Leavenfish 02-15-2005 07:02 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
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another good one

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Thanks Slickpapa. I thought it was pretty nice myself. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
---Leavenfish

Leavenfish 02-15-2005 07:06 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Cover Price?
 
BTW, Mason, what will the cover price be? I left it at $0.00 on my submission...but was wondering.

---Leavenfish

Mason Malmuth 02-15-2005 08:02 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Cover Price?
 
Hi Fish:

That was an oversight on my part since we obviously have to put a price on the book. It will be $17.95.

Best wishes,
Mason

jasonHoldEm 02-15-2005 09:03 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
You get my vote, my only critque would be a green background for the cards (i.e. felt). Very nice either way though.

J

Leavenfish 02-15-2005 10:12 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
Thanks Jason.

Actually, a green background was the initial idea (and I would not have any problem with that)-- felt, money, etc...but the black background seemed to stand out a bit more...and I could not recall seeing any other poker books that were primarily black.

--Leavenfish

Marduk 02-15-2005 11:39 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
hello internet

http://www.raspberryheaven.net/~mard.../book-gray.jpg
http://www.raspberryheaven.net/~mard...ook-yellow.jpg

smiely 02-16-2005 01:41 AM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
Okay, got home, and finally had some time to try to do up another couple of designs.
http://www.kjdtech.com/~vgalluzz/images/bookcover2a.jpg


This one has a hue/saturation adjustment layer in the PSD file so that I can change the color of the cover with a couple of clicks, if green isn't really the color of choice. Actually, I should be able to do that with the one above it too.
http://www.kjdtech.com/~vgalluzz/images/bookcover3.jpg

And, just for fun, since my cat decided to get in my way yesterday when I was taking high-res pics specifically so that I could make up the design at the proper size and resolution...
http://www.kjdtech.com/~vgalluzz/ima...over3kitty.jpg

larrondo 02-16-2005 03:00 AM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
I think this one is quite nice too, Nagoo. It has an old fashioned look, although I suspect the winner will be one of the modern ones.

gmunny 02-16-2005 03:21 AM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
Mine is kind of boring, but what the hey:

http://www.geocities.com/greg_ike/Presentation1.jpg

G$

theRealMacoy 02-16-2005 03:37 AM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
wow gentlemen,

there are some excellent designs.

so far i think illuminous' tweaked version is my first choice. second is jackwilson's blue and red offering.

good luck making your decicions boys,
the real macoy

Raza 02-16-2005 05:10 AM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
I'll have to take the picture myself for resolution and copyright reasons, but here's the concept:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...up/rmcover.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...p/rmcover2.jpg

Equal 02-16-2005 06:19 AM

Re: Card Version
 
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Okay, how about this?


http://www.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ardversion.jpg

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lol! That's great!

randomchamp 02-16-2005 10:27 AM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...BOOKCOVER2.jpg I like this one the best. Welcome to the board. I'd say give up on the standard 2+2 look..........

k_squared 02-16-2005 12:27 PM

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Hi Trace:

Since the contest is still going on, I need to respond here in a neutral manner.

The back cover will follow our standard design with the front cover's color scheme. That is on the bottom will be the bar code, the Two Plus Two logo, the small box recommending our web site, and the larger box with the Greg"Fossilman" Raymer quote. Above that will be the the large box with verbage describing the book and on the top will be the title and author's name. Also, somewhere on here will be the author's picture. Because of this I only requested that a front cover be designed.

Best wishes,
mason

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Mason,

Why do you feel the need to have the back cover follow a particular stylistic pattern? If you are willing to open up the cover design on the front of the book to a new interpretation that will be more attractive then why not also consider allowing the back to be redesigned? What reason is there for not even considering changing the back of the book as well (especially when it works so well!)?

I think the bullet points on the back effectively draw the reader in and if he/she wants more info before buying you can have an abstract on the first page that would have the info about the author that would have been on the back.

I think it is a mistake to limit the creativity of your entrants in this way. I think that Traces entries are far and away the best, and in large part because of the flow from the front cover to the spine to the back...

Trace's cover seems to be one that many people think looks the best... and perhaps that means you should reconsider your thoughts about the back cover, rather than just falling back on the fact that your original intent was just to have a front cover designed.

I believe that it would probably draw a first time reader in a lot more to have bulleted information about the book rather than info about Ed. The type of player you are appealing to (beginners) will reach for either an attractive book or a known author first, and while I think Ed is an articulate and insightful poker analyst he hasn't played on the World poker Tour, or won a WSOP bracelt (how the masses measure success). To the end of advertising to the beginning poker player, it makes sense to have Raymer's quote also included on the back, but I am confident that could be tastefully included! A beginner would have no attachment to the well constructed and solid library of resources that 2+2 provides. So, get the hook in by using the great cover Trace designed!!!

I don't know the technical issues involved in printing... and perhaps those issues complicate the matter. Good luck choosing a cover.

-k_squared

Rob Blackburn 02-16-2005 02:20 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
k_squared hit the nail on the head here, I think its time for a revamp and arrive in the new century here.

I will freely admit I passed over 2+2 books for at least a year and a half just because of the design on the covers. Little did I know that the pages between the hedious design would make me a player 10x better than I was, but I didn't know I just went on apperance.

Granted I have become fond of the old school design, but I think its time to step into the future.

All us nerds are buying the book regardless, why not just pick up a few thousand or more people in sales because it looks cool, I know its not all about money, but hell it doesn't hurt.

elwoodblues 02-16-2005 02:54 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
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I know its not all about money, but hell it doesn't hurt.


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Of course it's all about the money. What else is a cover design about?

gmunny 02-16-2005 03:10 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
I think it's may favorite as well. Though there are some very close seconds!
G$

Stork 02-16-2005 05:31 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
These are both very good.

Wakko 02-16-2005 05:54 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
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Is WakkoWarner a 2+2er? I'm assuming not since all that guy does is bitch at fish all day.

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He's a complete dick and he besmirches my good name.

- A.P.

AlanBstard 02-16-2005 06:44 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
Hi Mason,

What a cool idea, would love all those books. Heres an idea I have come up with, hope you like it.

http://www.popimages.com/2plus2/cover_edMiller.jpg

Cheers
Paul

akmoose 02-16-2005 09:16 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
Here is my entry for the cover contest. Hope you like it. Any comments are welcome. Good luck to all!

akmoose http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...eb/Holdem2.jpg

gila 02-16-2005 09:27 PM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
Pretty catchy, I like it.

Beach-Whale 02-17-2005 12:06 AM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
Yeah, I really like this one too, except the **cough** left single quotation mark instead of an apostrophe in "hold'em" in the title, and in "Sit'n'Go."

akmoose 02-17-2005 12:28 AM

Re: Cover Contest: Getting Started in Hold \'em -- Second Try
 
Oopsie! That can be changed. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Thank you,
akmoose


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