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MexKrax 11-16-2005 12:15 AM

77 in SB vs. 3 bet by BB
 
Villian in this hand is a little passive 33/8/1.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: 6 BB

Was calling down here the right play? I figured 77 was a resonably good hand so I want to see a showdown here, but it's not too strong so I want to get there as cheaply as possible right?

Lmn55d 11-16-2005 12:20 AM

Re: 77 in SB vs. 3 bet by BB
 
Against an unknown or loose/aggro player I would bet the river expecting to be called by A9-AQ more often than by a better hand (or checkraised). Since he's passive, this guy has a smaller preflop 3betting range and could easily be checking 99-QQ (24 combos) here. A guy like this might fold AJ/AQ to a river bet or not 3bet AJ preflop. Well played imo.

irishpint 11-16-2005 12:20 AM

Re: 77 in SB vs. 3 bet by BB
 
at least bet the river how you played it.

smartalecc5 11-16-2005 12:23 AM

Re: 77 in SB vs. 3 bet by BB
 
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at least bet the river how you played it.

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I think thats a little easier to say once, in retrospect, you realize that Villain will check the river.

Atleast you supported your statement, so I can understand your point of view. &lt;/sarcasm&gt; [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

irishpint 11-16-2005 12:24 AM

Re: 77 in SB vs. 3 bet by BB
 
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at least bet the river how you played it.

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I think thats a little easier to say once, in retrospect, you realize that Villain will check the river.

Atleast you supported your statement, so I can understand your point of view. &lt;/sarcasm&gt; [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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here is my support:
WA/WB type of line. villian checks the river w/ a lot of unimproved hands that he bets the flop and turn with. value bet.

also I dont think 33/8/1 (how many hands?) is too passive. on the passive side, yes, but more or less an average donkey, no?

MexKrax 11-16-2005 12:36 AM

Re: 77 in SB vs. 3 bet by BB
 
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also I dont think 33/8/1 (how many hands?) is too passive. on the passive side, yes, but more or less an average donkey, no?

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This was over only 50 hands, all from datamining so I can't give any sort of read beyond the stats.

Lmn55d 11-16-2005 12:38 AM

Re: 77 in SB vs. 3 bet by BB
 
33/8/1 is pretty damn passive

obsidian 11-16-2005 12:56 AM

Re: 77 in SB vs. 3 bet by BB
 
I think the turn check is fine as this villain this passive will often check behind with a hand we are behind (99-QQ). I probably play it the same.

MexKrax 11-18-2005 04:30 PM

Re: 77 in SB vs. 3 bet by BB
 
Thanks for the comments everyone. Villian showed ATo and MHIG.


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