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Gavagai 12-23-2005 01:29 PM

Stars $25NL, could I have played this AA any differently?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converter

MP3 ($22.10)
CO ($24.95)
Hero ($58.55)
SB ($17.55)
BB ($26.20)
UTG ($18.75)
UTG+1 ($23.20)
MP1 ($4.50)
MP2 ($20.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, MP3 calls $1.25.

Flop: ($4.60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($16.60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4.

River: ($24.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $10.1 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $10.10.

Final Pot: $44.80

Thoughts? Have no knowledge of villian whatsoever. I'll post the results after some responses.

Thanks,

Gavagai

beavens 12-23-2005 01:35 PM

Re: Stars $25NL, could I have played this AA any differently?
 
i'd like a bigger reraise pf and a raise on the turn. 1/4 pot bet is just lame.

12-23-2005 02:05 PM

Re: Stars $25NL, could I have played this AA any differently?
 
*Grunch*
I have been in this situation before too. I am guessing that villain had 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or he made a set of 5's or 10's, and had put you on a high pair -- j's or better. Personally, at the limit you are playing your preflop raise looks fine. But at the flop, minus any reads, that raise from MP3 is concerning, and I would consider folding right then.

Hoopster81 12-23-2005 02:34 PM

Re: Stars $25NL, could I have played this AA any differently?
 
tough hand

since you posted it, I'll guess you lost, but I don't think there was any getting away.

12-23-2005 02:52 PM

Re: Stars $25NL, could I have played this AA any differently?
 
Like he he said - bigger raise pre-flop. AA can be a very expensive hand if you run into 2 pair or a set. You must make people pay to draw out against you.

I was looking at my AAs, the other day. I've only folded 4/100 post flop. It was either when the top card paired the turn/river, or to a 4 flush.

I'd probably have been more aggressive post-flop. After the check/raise a set is definitely a possibility, but a lower over-pair or AT is more likely. I think the 4 is a good card for you since it cuts down the set possibilities. As played I call the all-in.



I'd probably re-raise the flop mini-raise, and the turn

RoCKo 12-23-2005 02:54 PM

Re: Stars $25NL, could I have played this AA any differently?
 
Hmmm.... Could it be a missed Flush draw?

QQ? and he thought his overpair was good and the river sealed the deal?


TT and flopped a set? When the board paired, he tossed out a small bet. Once he saw that you were calling, he went for the kill on the river.

PF, I think your raise was ok. Uggg hate these hands.

Tough to toss AA... not sure I could do it yet. But you are prob beaten.

RoCKo

Gavagai 12-23-2005 04:33 PM

Re: Stars $25NL, could I have played this AA any differently?
 
A number of people suggest re-raising the flop or raising the turn, I would just like to know what the thinking is behind this? Is it the best way to maximize value against the hands I beat? I was thinking that it gives some such hands a chance to get away, and at the same time costs the most if villian has a set. Furthermore, I was not very worried about the flush draw after the flop raise, I thought it most likely that the villian had only 2-3 outs so I wasn't too worried about free cards. Perhaps some cards kill my action if I am ahead, though, such as an overcard to the T if villain holds AT.

Hmm.

Gavagai 12-23-2005 05:30 PM

Results
 
Well anyway, villian had KK.

12-23-2005 07:24 PM

Re: Stars $25NL, could I have played this AA any differently?
 
[ QUOTE ]

Thoughts? Have no knowledge of villian whatsoever. I'll post the results after some responses.

Thanks,

Gavagai

[/ QUOTE ]

No reads is the key. The median SSNL player just limps w/ small pairs &amp; suited connectors. Villian raised, making it unlikely that he flopped the set.

That said, against the median player, you're way ahead coming into the turn which is why you'd want to get as much $ as possible into the pot.

Maulik 12-24-2005 02:42 PM

Re: Stars $25NL, could I have played this AA any differently?
 
PF Raise to $4-6.


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