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Gunny Highway 11-29-2005 10:27 AM

What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?
 
I take the view that taxation is nothing more than theft. Those that do not take this view argue that it is not theft because the property that is taken is used for my own benefit, as well as that of others. So what is the difference between these two scenarios from a moral standpoint?

Scenario 1) I'm forced to pay taxes against my will. The taxes are used for the benefit of the whole community.

Scenario 2) Someone breaks into my house and steals my bankroll. The money is donated to the local school for the benefit of the whole community.

Discuss. <font color="white">I'm pretty sure i know the answer I'm going to get, but this should be a good jumping off point for a discussion. </font>

Solami17 11-29-2005 10:39 AM

Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?
 
1. You are forced to pay taxes because the government says you have to. If you do not like the way your tax system works, your best bet is to move to a state that fits you better. The taxes you do pay do benefit your entire community though. They build better schools for our next generation, help the needy(one thing I am not too big on), and allow us to fight for our freedom.

2. As for someone stealing your BR and donating it to a school, well that is just plain ridiculous. What thief brakes an entry to steal money to just givr away. Most people would just ask for a donation, dont you think. If someone were to break into your house, though, this government you pay taxes to allows us to own fire arms.
Shoot the b@$t@rd!

Gunny Highway 11-29-2005 10:47 AM

Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?
 
So why shouldn't it be ok to shoot a government representative that comes to my house to try to collect taxes? I don't want to give him the taxes. He's trying to forcefullytake them (ir. throw me in jail if I don't pay). How is that morally any different from say a gang of armed criminals coming to my house to take my money and give it to a "worthy" cause that benefits the community?

tylerdurden 11-29-2005 11:58 AM

Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?
 
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If you do not like the way your tax system works, your best bet is to move to a state that fits you better.

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If there's a bully at school that steals your lunchmoney and gives you wedgies, your best bet is to move to a school with no bullies.

superleeds 11-29-2005 12:03 PM

Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?
 
Why do you believe you don't benefit?

11-29-2005 12:15 PM

Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?
 
Scenario 2 is simply what will happen if you don't pay your taxes in scenario 1.

PoBoy321 11-29-2005 12:20 PM

Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?
 
Scenario 1) You live in America. If you want to live in America, you have to pay your taxes (think of it like membership dues). If you don't want to pay your taxes, leave.

Scenario 2) You don't have any allegiance to the thief for which you would have to pay anything, so this is criminal.

Gunny Highway 11-29-2005 12:21 PM

Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?
 
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Why do you believe you don't benefit?

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Where did I say I don't benefit? That's not the point at all.

Gunny Highway 11-29-2005 12:26 PM

Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?
 
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Scenario 2 is simply what will happen if you don't pay your taxes in scenario 1.

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No, what will happen if I don't pay my taxes is that a gang of government-sponsored thugs will either extract the money under threat of violence or kidnap me.

Rduke55 11-29-2005 12:27 PM

Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?
 
Where does the money that pays you jarheads come from?


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