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12-27-2005 12:02 PM

Flush played weak?
 
Not sure about either the turn or river here. Comments appreciated.

Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB.

davelin 12-27-2005 12:03 PM

Re: Flush played weak?
 
You could probably raise pre-flop here. I'd cap that turn and call the river.

12-27-2005 12:08 PM

Re: Flush played weak?
 
I would have bet the river. Looks like he might have missed is FD.

12-27-2005 12:13 PM

Re: Flush played weak?
 
What kind of hand do you put villian on? If he is the type of player who would bet a nut flush draw on the flop then your line is g00t. Otherwise, as davelin said cap and call.

DeadManJay 12-27-2005 12:13 PM

Re: Flush played weak?
 
I put him on AJ with A of spades on his river check. I think the turn call is fine, but you have to bet this river.

Songwind 12-27-2005 12:33 PM

Re: Flush played weak?
 
*grunch*
Why did you limp preflop with KTs on the button? That's a good hand in position! Raise.

MP1 already called two bets cold, so I think capping the flop for value is a good play.

I call the 3-bet on the turn as well. MP2 was very aggressive after the flush card AND paired board hit and you raised him. I think capping here wouldn't be a big mistake either, though.

River: I bet/call the river when it's checked to me. He could easily have a smaller flush, trips, two pair.

davelin 12-27-2005 12:52 PM

Re: Flush played weak?
 
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MP1 already called two bets cold, so I think capping the flop for value is a good play.

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Not with just three to the turn.

12-27-2005 01:01 PM

Re: Flush played weak?
 
grunch:

I raise with this preflop. flop I think you could cap. Turn, you have the second nut flush, I'm not ready to give MP2 credit for Ace-x suited in spades, so I cap. River I bet.

12-27-2005 01:06 PM

Re: Flush played weak?
 
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Not with just three to the turn.

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Um, you're 35% to hit the flush by the river, the question is if you think he'll call the cap bet. If you're confident he'll call then it's a +EV bet. It would totally depend on the read, but he's already called two cold, why not two more?

davelin 12-27-2005 01:14 PM

Re: Flush played weak?
 
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Not with just three to the turn.

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Um, you're 35% to hit the flush by the river

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35% to hit your flush by the river does not equal 35% of pot equity here.


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