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GoCubsGo 09-23-2005 09:24 PM

Too passive with top set?
 
SB is tight, 22/1/1.1 hasn't done anything special
BB is a huge donk keeps talking and losing money 90/10/1.3

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

Hero ($100.96)
UTG+1 ($49)
UTG+2 ($65.85)
MP1 ($52.15)
MP2 ($57.02)
MP3 ($45)
CO ($89.50)
Button ($41.20)
SB ($43.15)
BB ($45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, SB calls $5, BB calls $5.

Turn: ($21) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $10</font>, BB calls $10, Hero calls $10.

River: ($51) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB calls $26.15 (All-In), BB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $77.15

I am pretty sure SB has a straight on the turn. If I raise it allows him to play perfectly. Is it worth it to find out now?

wdeadwyler 09-23-2005 09:51 PM

Re: Too passive with top set?
 
For GODS sake just push the turn.

"It allows him to play perfectly"
Firstly, that is not true.
Secondly, we all no he won't play perfectly.

Yes way too passive. I cant believe you did this. PUSH TURN.

Godfather80 09-23-2005 10:34 PM

Re: Too passive with top set?
 
[ QUOTE ]
SB is tight, 22/1/1.1 hasn't done anything special
BB is a huge donk keeps talking and losing money 90/10/1.3

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

Hero ($100.96)
UTG+1 ($49)
UTG+2 ($65.85)
MP1 ($52.15)
MP2 ($57.02)
MP3 ($45)
CO ($89.50)
Button ($41.20)
SB ($43.15)
BB ($45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, SB calls $5, BB calls $5.

Turn: ($21) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $10</font>, BB calls $10, Hero calls $10.

River: ($51) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB calls $26.15 (All-In), BB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $77.15

I am pretty sure SB has a straight on the turn. If I raise it allows him to play perfectly. Is it worth it to find out now?

[/ QUOTE ]

This is questionable. First off, you only have to be good 1 in 4 times to make this a good call. Secondly, if SB has AK, he sure played it strangely by check calling the flop, then weakly leading the turn to price in all flush draws.

I'm not saying you win this everytime or even 50% of the time, but you certainly win 25% of the time. Call on the river. If SB is so tight, he is unlikely to have a K unless it is AK. As I previously stated, SB's play is strange with AK.

Voltron87 09-23-2005 11:21 PM

Re: Too passive with top set?
 
WTF are you doing on the turn

PassiveCaller 09-24-2005 12:14 AM

Re: Too passive with top set?
 
I just ate dinner and this turn made me throw up.

gol4pro 09-24-2005 12:35 AM

Re: Too passive with top set?
 
I got nothing new, but the turn is AWFUL.

If you don't understand why, Id be happy to explain.

Jocke_F 09-24-2005 05:51 AM

Re: Too passive with top set?
 
push turn to price out draws, if you are behind you still have a good amount of outs.


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