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Scuba Chuck 12-29-2005 03:44 PM

Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
 
PartyPoker, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t755)
MP1 (t675)
MP2 (t580)
MP3 (t1275)
CO+1 (t505)
CO (t1255)
Button (t760)
Hero (t785)
BB (t610)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, CO+1 calls t15, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t5, BB checks

Flop: (t45) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t45</font>, BB calls t45, <font color="red">CO+1 raises t125</font>, Hero ...

BrettP217 12-29-2005 03:45 PM

Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
 
lay it down

tigerite 12-29-2005 03:47 PM

Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
 
I'd have gone for a check-raise here. As you've played it though, 3-bet push.

Pasterbator 12-29-2005 03:51 PM

Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
 
Well, i'm certainly not laying this down. I think I'm pushing this everytime. If you call, I don't think you're getting paid off if you hit your flush. You're ahead of everything but J9, 44, 99, JJ, and you have tons of FE. Push this shtuff.

SuitedSixes 12-29-2005 03:51 PM

Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
 
If you are going to fold vs. resistance with 2nd pair and 4 to a flush, then you need to start folding these hands pre-flop. Otherwise you are hoping to flop made hands, and that doesn't happen enough for you to be profitable.

Pasterbator 12-29-2005 03:52 PM

Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
 
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I'd have gone for a check-raise here. As you've played it though, 3-bet push.

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I'm not sure I like a checkraise. If he calls your checkraise, whats your play on the turn if you miss everything? I prefer to get it all in on the flop if i can.

Scuba Chuck 12-29-2005 03:53 PM

Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
 
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If you are going to fold vs. resistance with 2nd pair and 4 to a flush, then you need to start folding these hands pre-flop. Otherwise you are hoping to flop made hands, and that doesn't happen enough for you to be profitable.

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Why the tone? I didn't show hero's action. I'm aware of my pot equity here. The question is, do I have enough FE to make this worthwhile often enough?

SuitedSixes 12-29-2005 04:17 PM

Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
 
A) No tone, real, implied, imagined or otherwise.
B) Reply was not to OP, but to responder who said fold.

Snarf 12-29-2005 04:22 PM

Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
 
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If you are going to fold vs. resistance with 2nd pair and 4 to a flush, then you need to start folding these hands pre-flop. Otherwise you are hoping to flop made hands, and that doesn't happen enough for you to be profitable.

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spot on.

I default to push - but might soft play if I sense my FE dropping like the rain has been lately...

No way I'm folding.

Little Lew 12-29-2005 04:26 PM

Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
 
Quote:
If you are going to fold vs. resistance with 2nd pair and 4 to a flush, then you need to start folding these hands pre-flop. Otherwise you are hoping to flop made hands, and that doesn't happen enough for you to be profitable.




gotta say that even a weak-tightie newbie like myself would push as fast as I could.


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