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astroglide 12-13-2005 07:12 PM

Re: To shoot or not to shoot
 
polltard.

mrkilla 12-13-2005 07:13 PM

Re: To shoot or not to Shoot
 
PS Of course its politics...

But the moral high ground has just gone out the window, you will now burn in hell for shooting a man...

Now say he is caught but your dead, do you want him fried?

man 12-13-2005 07:14 PM

Re: To shoot or not to Shoot
 
holy crap, no one's voted for the other three* yet?

I'm pro-life and against the death penalty. but letting him live is like an assault on society. I can't see any ethical argument for letting him live. it's possible that he'll repent/reform himself and start to contribute to society, but chances are he will continue to damage it. you have a responsibility to try to kill him.

this is my one-sided analysis of the choice, and I think it's more complicated than this, but I'd like to see what others think.

jba 12-13-2005 07:14 PM

Re: To shoot or not to Shoot
 
Ezekiel 25:17 [censored]

TheMainEvent 12-13-2005 07:15 PM

Re: To shoot or not to Shoot
 
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PS Of course its politics...

But the moral high ground has just gone out the window, you will now burn in hell for shooting a man...

Now say he is caught but your dead, do you want him fried?

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No, and it's clearly hypocritical for anyone who is against the death penalty to say yes to this

daryn 12-13-2005 07:15 PM

Re: To shoot or not to Shoot
 
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PS Of course its politics...

But the moral high ground has just gone out the window, you will now burn in hell for shooting a man...

Now say he is caught but your dead, do you want him fried?

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i told you i am against death penalty

what if i don't believe in hell?

you are a bad poster

man 12-13-2005 07:15 PM

Re: To shoot or not to Shoot
 
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PS Of course its politics...

But the moral high ground has just gone out the window, you will now burn in hell for shooting a man...

Now say he is caught but your dead, do you want him fried?

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No, and it's clearly hypocritical for anyone who is against the death penalty to say yes to this

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false. the justice system is flawed.

edit: to clarify, it is easy for the justice system to incriminate someone who is innocent. see the Randall Dale Adams case: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/dept...ns/RDAdams.htm

daryn 12-13-2005 07:17 PM

Re: To shoot or not to Shoot
 
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PS Of course its politics...

But the moral high ground has just gone out the window, you will now burn in hell for shooting a man...

Now say he is caught but your dead, do you want him fried?

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No, and it's clearly hypocritical for anyone who is against the death penalty to say yes to this

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false. the justice system is flawed.

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he meant to say yes to this:

Now say he is caught but your dead, do you want him fried?

slickpoppa 12-13-2005 07:17 PM

Re: To shoot or not to Shoot
 
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you would think , but there are people who say tookie should live if he shot your mom...

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If your example is supposed to make people question their opposition to the death penalty, it is a very poor one. In your hypothetical I saw the person kill my wife so there is no doubt that he did it. But one of the main reasons that many people are opposed to the death penalty is that courts can never reach that level of certainty in determining whether someone actually did commit the crime that they were convicted of. DNA testing has shown after the fact that many innocent people have been executed. Another problem with your hypothetical is that the criminal in question is about to escape. In comparison, we have the ability to keep people in prison for life with almost no possibility of them escaping.

man 12-13-2005 07:18 PM

Re: To shoot or not to Shoot
 
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PS Of course its politics...

But the moral high ground has just gone out the window, you will now burn in hell for shooting a man...

Now say he is caught but your dead, do you want him fried?

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No, and it's clearly hypocritical for anyone who is against the death penalty to say yes to this

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false. the justice system is flawed.

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he meant to say yes to this:

Now say he is caught but your dead, do you want him fried?

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my bad, thanks for clarifying.


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