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Raiser 07-20-2005 02:12 PM

QTs on the button on the bubble. Short stacked...
 
Easy fold, given the blind stacks, right?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

BB (t3890)
UTG (t600)
Hero (t785)
SB (t2725)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Hero???

suited_ace 07-20-2005 02:14 PM

Re: QTs on the button on the bubble. Short stacked...
 
Yup. Pretty much so.

schwza 07-20-2005 05:04 PM

Re: QTs on the button on the bubble. Short stacked...
 
yeah, i'd fold. pretty good chance shorty's going broke next hand on his BB.

tigerite 07-20-2005 05:56 PM

Re: QTs on the button on the bubble. Short stacked...
 
Easy fold but if you had this the next hand, when shorty was in the BB, I think it becomes a push.

Nottom 07-20-2005 06:02 PM

Re: QTs on the button on the bubble. Short stacked...
 
I usually go ahead and push. I'm probably too aggressive in these spots.

UTG isn't in all that much a worse spot than you and if doubles up you are in trouble. I don't think this is a terribly -EV push and sometimes ICM doesn't really tell the whole story.

curtains 07-20-2005 06:13 PM

Re: QTs on the button on the bubble. Short stacked...
 

It really depends how loose the blinds are. If they are calling with stuff like A3o then its a clear fold. It's hard to get a read in this type situation, but I'd lean towards folding.

For example pushing is -EV against the following range:

(33+,A7o+,A4s+,KTs+)

I wouldnt be at all shocked if the blinds were that loose....also note that hands like KQo/QJs arent included in that batch and its still -ev.


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