Midpairs in lvl 4 w/ 13-20BB
 

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter

SB (t1445)
BB (t720)
Hero (t1740)
MP (t1430)
Button (t2665)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, MP calls t300, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t750) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t500</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to t1130 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

I've been wondering if this is not a fold PF w/ 88-TT, maybe even JJ...

Re: Midpairs in lvl 4 w/ 13-20BB
 

Edit: LOl I'm too tired to post. First I though it was 150/300, then 75/150, and it was 50/100. Preflop is just fine.

Re: Midpairs in lvl 4 w/ 13-20BB
 

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I don't understand the miniraise, I'd rather limp or fold than minraise.

[/ QUOTE ] He didn't minraise. He put in 3xBB. I like that opening bet.

Re: Midpairs in lvl 4 w/ 13-20BB
 

You bet too much on the flop, he is either gonna push or fold against that bet so you gain nothing.

I'd bet 200 if he pushes im out.

Re: Midpairs in lvl 4 w/ 13-20BB
 

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You bet too much on the flop, he is either gonna push or fold against that bet so you gain nothing.

I'd bet 200 if he pushes im out.

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and once again, the ENTIRE STT FORUM disagrees!

Re: Midpairs in lvl 4 w/ 13-20BB
 

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I'd bet 200 if he pushes im out.

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If Villain has 1/2 a brain, he's raising me 100% of the time after such a donk bet.

Re: Midpairs in lvl 4 w/ 13-20BB
 

if he had a brain he wouldnt cold call preflop unless he was trapping

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Why bet the 500 he is pot commited he is either gonna fold or push and if you arent gonna call you have wasted 1/3rd of your stack on a flop bet which isnt getting called.

Come on who is gonna call 500 with a worse hand when they have 1130 in chips left and the pot is 1250 when it gets to him?

Re: Midpairs in lvl 4 w/ 13-20BB
 

I am limping or pushing here. Depends on the nature of my opponents. 99 is not a good enough hand to "play poker" with. You will be investing too many of your chips on too risky a situation if you raise 3BB or more and get called. You either want to see a flop cheaply and play for a set or push preflop and hope to steal the blinds.

I push if I expect that they will fold. Winning 150 chips out of position with 99 is good enough. I am in second place and with the blinds this high one or the other of the short stacks will bust out soon enough. Then we face true bubble play and the table will tighten up and I can accumulate chips there.

I will limp if I assume that I can see the flop for the price of limping. I will be playing for a set here. Most likely I will be out of position so If I miss my set or do not end up with overpair I get away from it. If the table is such that I think a minbet would allow me to see the flop for twoBB then I might go for that.

Against most tables I limp. Much shorter stack and I would favor pushing. Aggressive table and shorter stack I would be undecided. Much larger stack and I raise 3-4BB to see who wants to play.

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tjh

Re: Midpairs in lvl 4 w/ 13-20BB
 

No where in the rules of poker does it say you are compelled to lead out on the flop after a pre-flop raise.

Checking is the new raising.