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Surfbullet 11-29-2005 05:55 AM

15/30 A river raise-fold - AK
 
Villain is 45/24/2 but not out of control postflop...aggressive though.

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Surf is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Surf raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Surf caps</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (8.66 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Surf bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Surf calls.

Turn: (6.33 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Surf calls.

River: (8.33 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Surf raise-folds...</font>

Surf

Joe Tall 11-29-2005 06:00 AM

Re: 15/30 A river raise-fold - AK
 
I'm down.

gh9801 11-29-2005 06:01 AM

Re: 15/30 A river raise-fold - AK
 
I like it, although if he's 45/24/2 it means he's very very aggressive (he's playing a lot more hands and his AF = 2 still), so I might even call a river threebet

Dazarath 11-29-2005 07:41 AM

Re: 15/30 A river raise-fold - AK
 
I think it's closer between calling the 3-bet and capping. I'd never fold. An AF of 2 combined with 45% VPIP is very, VERY high. You did say he's not out of control postflop, so a cap might be spewing.

With a 24% PFR, is it not likely that he would play AK-AT in the same manner?

hobbsmann 11-29-2005 07:45 AM

Re: 15/30 A river raise-fold - AK
 
if your plan is to fold to a 3-bet then I don't like it.

flawless_victory 11-29-2005 07:53 AM

Re: 15/30 A river raise-fold - AK
 
no fvcking way do i fold this, call.
i suspect you called and were shown AA, now you post what u think u shouldve done to get feedbacjk... PLZ dont fold AK on this board in a HU pot.

stigmata 11-29-2005 08:56 AM

Re: 15/30 A river raise-fold - AK
 
Yeah, I think this guy would 3-bet the river with AK, so I'm calling too.

11-29-2005 09:17 AM

Re: 15/30 A river raise-fold - AK
 
Calling is at worst a small mistake; folding is a BIG one.

krishanleong 11-29-2005 09:45 AM

Re: 15/30 A river raise-fold - AK
 
[ QUOTE ]
Calling is at worst a small mistake; folding is a BIG one.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is the dumbest thing people say on these boards. How can folding be a BIG mistake? Because it cost you the entire pot? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Sometimes I wonder if people realize folding the best hand is occasionally part of playing good poker.

I think raise-fold &gt; call &gt; raise-call.

Krishan

Chief911 11-29-2005 09:59 AM

Re: 15/30 A river raise-fold - AK
 
For Gods sake people, he's 42/24. He could be doing this with AT for all we know.

Raise, and call a 3-bet, and good lord this isn't even close. If this is a 19/13 we are talking about, then I probably just call expecting a chop at best, but a chop enough that the call is warranted. But with those stats? I'm raising.

This type of river is not the time to be weak-tight.

Nick


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